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We’ve lost the internet, it’s all about damage control now

45 points by l33tbro 9y ago

revmoo 9y ago
Amusing that this article loaded on my phone with nearly the entire screen obscured by an ad..
subru 9y ago
There needs to be a tech innovation that bypasses the internet, with a value add to make it compelling enough, at least for the tech crowd initially. Such innovation needs to be rooted in a plan that carries the long view regarding risk management that was missed the first time around. Otherwise, yes, it's too late.
- atrudeau 9y ago
  IPFS?
  - noam87 9y ago
    Hi, I'm Regular User Steve. I use Chrome because Google told me it connects faster to the Internet or uses less data or something. Last year someone gave me a virus with Gmail so this time around I got a Mac because the guy at the store told me Macs don't get viruses. Anyway, can you explain to me why I should use this IPFS browser thing? Can I still check my Gmail with it? Is it faster than Chrome?
    - type0 9y ago
      It connects faster to the Internet and doesn't give you viruses
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nannePOPI 9y ago
As usual people ask for more regulations, but when you do regulations corporations always find a way around and become stronger. They become stronger because the small guy doesn't have the money, the energy and the lawyers to abide to every stupid regulation thrown at him. It surprises me that it's the founder of tpb to call for more regulations, since he made a website that survived this long thanks to a lack of regulations. Also it's false that today there is nothing outside of fb, google, etc There are a lot of websites and services one can use and support so that they can improve. There are a lot of cool communities outside those blessed by big corps. But I can see how the billions of internet noobs that do stupid stuff on fb or google get a lot of attentions. But they truly are noobs. The only problem with fb, google, etc is that, as all corporations do, they will eventually lobby the government to pass regulations so that they can have an easier life against competition, and they are smart enough to do it so that you can't see it coming. They won't say "google must rule", no, they will push for ten new law every day, until there are thousands of laws and only well-payed lawyer can abide them. This is how it's always worked in all industries, in all countries. It's like a circle of economic self-destruction. The only rule that the internet need is a rule to define what the internet is, and that rule is embedded in the concept of Net Neutrality. Because of course if I buy "the internet" I want the damn internet, not cable tv 2.0. And all the extra rules, those about freedom of speech, etc should be about how there shall be a lack of rules, not more rules. If you ask for more rules you first get stupid stuff like the EU cookie law, and then really bad stuff that makes life difficult for the little guy, but not the big guy. When you ask for regulations from the government you pave the road for the CORPORATIONS because they have the lawyer, the money, the energy that the little guy does not have. If you hate google and fb so much block them, for now it is possible to do it. In almost all industries there are a lot of regulations. And most of this regulations are in the end against the little guy, and favor the big guy. Maybe one day there will be a lot of regulations for the internet, but none of them will help the freedom of normal people, but just make corporations stronger. And then you really won't be able to block fb, google, youtube, etc
didibus 9y ago
What illness is Big Data causing us?
- Joe-Z 9y ago
  From context it sounds like he's talking about the dependence people have on services provided by Facebook and Google. (i.e. a government couldn't pass regulation constraining facebook, since its citizens would rise in upheaval being cut off from their 'drug of choice') Big data seems to just be a synonym for the big 5 companies he's talking about here. It confused me too at first.
  - didibus 9y ago
    Hum, even so, I don't see him mentioning downsides to that dependance. I understand his argument, but you also can't say it's bad without showing how it is. Cigarettes causes massive health issues. But coffee turned out not to really cause harm, and we're all addicted and dependent. I think with the big 5 companies, it's unclear if any harm is being made like with tobacco, or if it's an addiction we can all continue to enjoy like coffee.

45 points by l33tbro 9y ago

Amusing that this article loaded on my phone with nearly the entire screen obscured by an ad..

There needs to be a tech innovation that bypasses the internet, with a value add to make it compelling enough, at least for the tech crowd initially. Such innovation needs to be rooted in a plan that carries the long view regarding risk management that was missed the first time around. Otherwise, yes, it's too late.

atrudeau 9y ago
IPFS?
- noam87 9y ago
  Hi, I'm Regular User Steve. I use Chrome because Google told me it connects faster to the Internet or uses less data or something. Last year someone gave me a virus with Gmail so this time around I got a Mac because the guy at the store told me Macs don't get viruses. Anyway, can you explain to me why I should use this IPFS browser thing? Can I still check my Gmail with it? Is it faster than Chrome?
  - type0 9y ago
    It connects faster to the Internet and doesn't give you viruses

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nannePOPI 9y ago

As usual people ask for more regulations, but when you do regulations corporations always find a way around and become stronger. They become stronger because the small guy doesn't have the money, the energy and the lawyers to abide to every stupid regulation thrown at him. It surprises me that it's the founder of tpb to call for more regulations, since he made a website that survived this long thanks to a lack of regulations. Also it's false that today there is nothing outside of fb, google, etc There are a lot of websites and services one can use and support so that they can improve. There are a lot of cool communities outside those blessed by big corps. But I can see how the billions of internet noobs that do stupid stuff on fb or google get a lot of attentions. But they truly are noobs. The only problem with fb, google, etc is that, as all corporations do, they will eventually lobby the government to pass regulations so that they can have an easier life against competition, and they are smart enough to do it so that you can't see it coming. They won't say "google must rule", no, they will push for ten new law every day, until there are thousands of laws and only well-payed lawyer can abide them. This is how it's always worked in all industries, in all countries. It's like a circle of economic self-destruction. The only rule that the internet need is a rule to define what the internet is, and that rule is embedded in the concept of Net Neutrality. Because of course if I buy "the internet" I want the damn internet, not cable tv 2.0. And all the extra rules, those about freedom of speech, etc should be about how there shall be a lack of rules, not more rules. If you ask for more rules you first get stupid stuff like the EU cookie law, and then really bad stuff that makes life difficult for the little guy, but not the big guy. When you ask for regulations from the government you pave the road for the CORPORATIONS because they have the lawyer, the money, the energy that the little guy does not have. If you hate google and fb so much block them, for now it is possible to do it. In almost all industries there are a lot of regulations. And most of this regulations are in the end against the little guy, and favor the big guy. Maybe one day there will be a lot of regulations for the internet, but none of them will help the freedom of normal people, but just make corporations stronger. And then you really won't be able to block fb, google, youtube, etc

didibus 9y ago

What illness is Big Data causing us?

Joe-Z 9y ago
From context it sounds like he's talking about the dependence people have on services provided by Facebook and Google. (i.e. a government couldn't pass regulation constraining facebook, since its citizens would rise in upheaval being cut off from their 'drug of choice') Big data seems to just be a synonym for the big 5 companies he's talking about here. It confused me too at first.
- didibus 9y ago
  Hum, even so, I don't see him mentioning downsides to that dependance. I understand his argument, but you also can't say it's bad without showing how it is. Cigarettes causes massive health issues. But coffee turned out not to really cause harm, and we're all addicted and dependent. I think with the big 5 companies, it's unclear if any harm is being made like with tobacco, or if it's an addiction we can all continue to enjoy like coffee.