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>in Sparta they did it by shouting (loudest won — which the Athenians thought very weird) I don't know why the Athenians thought this to be weird, I guess they
by Torwald 9y ago
>in Sparta they did it by shouting (loudest won — which the Athenians thought very weird)
I don't know why the Athenians thought this to be weird, I guess they had their reasons. But I can think of one benefit of the Spartanian way.
If you raise hands, you can quickly change when you see what others are doing. When you shout, you have to inhale as much as you can to shout as loud as you can. You first have to make up your mind, before you can hear others.
- willvarfar 9y agoSounds like 'sizism' to me.
- thaumasiotes 9y agoElection by acclamation isn't a contest among the candidates to see who can shout the loudest. It's a contest to see who gets more support (shouting) from the audience.
- tpeo 9y agoMaybe they "thought" it was "weird" retroactively after the Peloponnesian War. Athens was mishandled pretty badly after it's defeat by the pro-Spartan government of the Thirty Tyrants. That on top of being at war with Sparta for more than twenty years would have made them pretty averse to anything Spartan.
- mmanfrin 9y agoAthens was mishandled pretty badly prior to the defeat as well, but that one is on them. Ostracizing the lead architect of an invasion right before the invasion is not a smart move when you've got an adversary willing to hire him to plan the defense.
- eveningcoffee 9y agoAnother slightly similar situation was the loss of Constantinople https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orban https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orban
- Rotten194 9y agoConstantinople was already doomed to fall before 1453. The 4th crusade hollowed out the city, and even after being retaken it was never the same -- by 1453, it was an island in a sea of Ottoman territory.
- walshemj 9y agoEven to this day some forms of parliamentary systems use voice voting only going to a show of hands or card votes if the outcome is not obvious