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Wayback Machine link if you want to know who they were: https://web.archive.org/web/20170603212121/https://verelox.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20170603212

Wayback Machine link if you want to know who they were: https://web.archive.org/web/20170603212121/https://verelox.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20170603212121/https://verelox.c...

michaelbuckbee 9y ago
Wow, they were a VPS hosting provider. Lots of unhappy customers (and this likely qualifies as a data breach for all of them as well).
- __jal 9y ago
  Yeah, that could become legally awful. Which is appropriate; it appears $admin ruined a lot of people's days. I suspect that person will soon have a fair amount of time to decide on what new career to pursue to pay down the fines when they get out...
  - redm 9y ago
    I suspect they assume it was an ex-admin probably because of timing. There may not be any proof to back up that claim and thus there may be no repercussions. Until they release specifics if ever, it's hard to know what to make of the status message.
3dm0nd 9y ago
They should be able to use https://github.com/hartator/wayback-machine-downloader https://github.com/hartator/wayback-machine-downloader and get at least a static version of the website back online.
- DKnoll 9y ago
  If a VPS provider didn't manage to have even an offline backup of their own website they should dissolve the company.
  - rurban 9y ago
    If it was an ex-admin he might have deleted all the backups also. But they should be able to tell this publicly, otherwise it's similar to recent case where the newbie deleted the prod DB without any backup.
    - foepys 9y ago
      Isn't this the time where you put stuff on tape and store it somewhere outside of physical reach? Is tape even used anymore?
      - wlesieutre 9y ago
        Yep, I'm not involved at all but I believe my workplace does its offsite backups on tape with a service like Iron Mountain http://www.ironmountain.com/Services/Data-Management/Tape-Vaulting.aspx http://www.ironmountain.com/Services/Data-Management/Tape-Va...
      - tyingq 9y ago
        A patient disgruntled admin would have altered the backups to write garbage to the tapes for however long the rotation cycle is, then kicked off the production melee.
    - _ph_ 9y ago
      The parent poster talked about an offline backup. That is the big idea of offline (and even better, offsite) backups, that you cannot delete or destroy them from a computer, just by destroying the physical media.
      - shif 9y ago
        An ex admin would probably have access to the physical backups too, this could have been done before he left the company.
        _ph_ 9y ago
tanilama 9y ago
Damn, they are fucked. How could people trust them any more???

Wayback Machine link if you want to know who they were: https://web.archive.org/web/20170603212121/https://verelox.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20170603212121/https://verelox.c...

michaelbuckbee 9y ago

Wow, they were a VPS hosting provider. Lots of unhappy customers (and this likely qualifies as a data breach for all of them as well).

__jal 9y ago
Yeah, that could become legally awful. Which is appropriate; it appears $admin ruined a lot of people's days. I suspect that person will soon have a fair amount of time to decide on what new career to pursue to pay down the fines when they get out...
- redm 9y ago
  I suspect they assume it was an ex-admin probably because of timing. There may not be any proof to back up that claim and thus there may be no repercussions. Until they release specifics if ever, it's hard to know what to make of the status message.

3dm0nd 9y ago

They should be able to use https://github.com/hartator/wayback-machine-downloader https://github.com/hartator/wayback-machine-downloader and get at least a static version of the website back online.

DKnoll 9y ago
If a VPS provider didn't manage to have even an offline backup of their own website they should dissolve the company.
- rurban 9y ago
  If it was an ex-admin he might have deleted all the backups also. But they should be able to tell this publicly, otherwise it's similar to recent case where the newbie deleted the prod DB without any backup.
  - foepys 9y ago
    Isn't this the time where you put stuff on tape and store it somewhere outside of physical reach? Is tape even used anymore?
    - wlesieutre 9y ago
      Yep, I'm not involved at all but I believe my workplace does its offsite backups on tape with a service like Iron Mountain http://www.ironmountain.com/Services/Data-Management/Tape-Vaulting.aspx http://www.ironmountain.com/Services/Data-Management/Tape-Va...
    - tyingq 9y ago
      A patient disgruntled admin would have altered the backups to write garbage to the tapes for however long the rotation cycle is, then kicked off the production melee.
  - _ph_ 9y ago
    The parent poster talked about an offline backup. That is the big idea of offline (and even better, offsite) backups, that you cannot delete or destroy them from a computer, just by destroying the physical media.
    - shif 9y ago
      An ex admin would probably have access to the physical backups too, this could have been done before he left the company.
      - _ph_ 9y ago

tanilama 9y ago

Damn, they are fucked. How could people trust them any more???