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Extremely aggressive price for the microprocessor, but there are large hidden software costs. Their proprietary IDE is listed at $445 (http://focus.ti.com/docs/

by boots 16y ago

Extremely aggressive price for the microprocessor, but there are large hidden software costs. Their proprietary IDE is listed at $445 (http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/ccstudio.html http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/ccstudio.html)

Tichy 16y ago
Is the IDE required? For me, a command line tool (compiler?) would suffice.
- stratomorph 16y ago
  It looks like gcc can be used (http://mspgcc.sourceforge.net/ http://mspgcc.sourceforge.net/). I'll have to brush up on my C.
  - Tichy 16y ago
    Same here, but I expect at least C code for those little chips will remain manageable in size.
  - plaes 16y ago
    Also llvm ( http://www.llvm.org http://www.llvm.org ) has experimental msp430 backend. [edit] Found the real development site: https://www.fooe.net/trac/llvm-msp430/wiki https://www.fooe.net/trac/llvm-msp430/wiki
    - sophacles 16y ago
      Once compiled, how does the transfer to chip go?
      - plaes 16y ago
        There should be some kind of utilities. So far I have at least used one for Atmel AVR-s and MIPS architectures.
Sirocco 16y ago
I'm not saying you're wrong, as I'm not familiar with this stuff in the slightest, but the blog post mentions two supposedly free IDEs: IAR Embedded Kickstart, and Code Composer Studio 4. http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Code_Composer_Studio_v4 http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Code_Composer_Studio... http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/iar-kickstart.html?DCMP=MSP430&HQS=Other+OT+iarkickstart http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/iar-kickstart....
- sghael 16y ago
  When I worked in the TI DSP group (many years ago) we called it "Code Composter". $4.30 is cheap... but what about the time cost of using "Code Composter"? This was about 6 years ago, so I hope for all the hacker that CC is better now.
zokier 16y ago
The free IDE should be adequate for this and there is a port of GCC for the controller.
- deleted 16y ago
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- rbanffy 16y ago
  It, however, is Windows-only. I have downloaded it and will try to run it under Wine, but I bet it won't like the USB.
  - azim 16y ago
    Please update us with your findings once you try it.
    - rbanffy 16y ago
      Failed miserably. Parts of the software install, parts don't and, in general, it seems dysfunctional.

by boots 16y ago

Tichy 16y ago

Is the IDE required? For me, a command line tool (compiler?) would suffice.

stratomorph 16y ago
It looks like gcc can be used (http://mspgcc.sourceforge.net/ http://mspgcc.sourceforge.net/). I'll have to brush up on my C.
- Tichy 16y ago
  Same here, but I expect at least C code for those little chips will remain manageable in size.
- plaes 16y ago
  Also llvm ( http://www.llvm.org http://www.llvm.org ) has experimental msp430 backend. [edit] Found the real development site: https://www.fooe.net/trac/llvm-msp430/wiki https://www.fooe.net/trac/llvm-msp430/wiki
  - sophacles 16y ago
    Once compiled, how does the transfer to chip go?
    - plaes 16y ago
      There should be some kind of utilities. So far I have at least used one for Atmel AVR-s and MIPS architectures.

Sirocco 16y ago

I'm not saying you're wrong, as I'm not familiar with this stuff in the slightest, but the blog post mentions two supposedly free IDEs: IAR Embedded Kickstart, and Code Composer Studio 4. http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Code_Composer_Studio_v4 http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Code_Composer_Studio... http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/iar-kickstart.html?DCMP=MSP430&HQS=Other+OT+iarkickstart http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/iar-kickstart....

sghael 16y ago
When I worked in the TI DSP group (many years ago) we called it "Code Composter". $4.30 is cheap... but what about the time cost of using "Code Composter"? This was about 6 years ago, so I hope for all the hacker that CC is better now.

zokier 16y ago

The free IDE should be adequate for this and there is a port of GCC for the controller.

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rbanffy 16y ago
It, however, is Windows-only. I have downloaded it and will try to run it under Wine, but I bet it won't like the USB.
- azim 16y ago
  Please update us with your findings once you try it.
  - rbanffy 16y ago
    Failed miserably. Parts of the software install, parts don't and, in general, it seems dysfunctional.