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Why would my mother do that instead of just using Facebook which is already there and already had all of her friends and family on it?

mirimir 9y ago
Because maybe Facebook nukes her account, for whatever reason.
- StephenConnell 9y ago
  I am an advocate of having your own domain and having control. But most people don't care as much as the hacker news crowd does. "Phone broke, here is my new number..." really? For business it's critical to maintain any form of communication you have ever offered. But for personal, a lot of people don't care if they change their [email] and inconvenience their friends and family. The internet is not crucial to everyones daily life. And honestly, it probably shouldn't be as crucial to ours.
- nextlevelwizard 9y ago
  When has this actually happened? And by this I mean that out of nowhere Facebook suddenly has deleted someone's page and then not restored it? I get what you are suggesting, but I can't help but to think you are making this way bigger issue than it actually is. Also all of you are missing the most obvious point: if it hasn't happened to a lot (and I mean literally more than 10-20% of user base) it is not a significant risk and thus spending extra effort for literally no gain (and actually probably more of a loss in views/users/buyers/whatever) is not worth paying someone to design you a website and paying for updates and then A) paying for (yet another) 3rd party company to host your website B) learning how to setup, host, update, and maintain your own website. I'm sure most of people on this site could easily setup their own website and run it wherever, but the reason why people are paying you to do such things for living means that most people can't be bothered to learn all the necessary skills.
  - interfixus 9y ago
    Good luck posting some controversial point of view on Facebook or similar platforms. They'll axe you in the blink of an eye. It's real. It happens all the time. I have seen it again and again.
    - dajt 9y ago
      I may have a business one day that sells bits for model steam locos. Many people who are likely to be my customers belong to a facebook group, and probably don't use their PCs much except for facebook and e-mail. And if I needed to post a controversial point of view on my model steam loco business page, I've got bigger problems than facebook. I can't stand facebook, but for my purposes it is probably the cheapest, most direct, and low effort way for those people to get to me. It's also probably pretty low effort on my part. The business would never be more than a cottage industry and I certainly wouldn't want to spend ANY money on IT that I could avoid. Anyone here offering to donate their time to keep all my IT in order for the same cost I can do it with facebook, and give me the exposure it will to my potential customers? If so I'll give you my gmail address to get in contact ;)
      - C4stor 9y ago
        I think that your point of view is both : - totally acceptable :-) - not really answering the OP question ! The way I understand it, the question could be phrased : "What costs are we willing to pay to reduce the collective social costs of ultradependence on private companies". You clearly states what are the costs you're not willing to pay, but don't really answer the question which is : what costs would you actually be ready to pay ? (Maybe the answer is none, but I don't feel like you actually state that ?)
        dajt 9y ago
        There are no costs for IT I'd be willing to pay for. The nature of the business is such that it wouldn't even be worth having a shopping cart type app running. The web presence of the business would basically be an advertisement, newsletter, and contact page. There are related businesses that sell lots of small items, eg nuts, bolts, material, that would be a lot more convenient to use with a shopping cart, but mine doesn't need it.
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a1exyz 9y ago
She wouldn't. But there are many people who don't like Facebook for privacy reasons or other reasons mentioned in this sub-thread. They might opt for such a service. And then it would grow organically if the experience/total package really was more in line what people want out of a web presence. Its not like the whole world would switch overnight

mirimir 9y ago

Because maybe Facebook nukes her account, for whatever reason.

StephenConnell 9y ago
I am an advocate of having your own domain and having control. But most people don't care as much as the hacker news crowd does. "Phone broke, here is my new number..." really? For business it's critical to maintain any form of communication you have ever offered. But for personal, a lot of people don't care if they change their [email] and inconvenience their friends and family. The internet is not crucial to everyones daily life. And honestly, it probably shouldn't be as crucial to ours.
nextlevelwizard 9y ago
When has this actually happened? And by this I mean that out of nowhere Facebook suddenly has deleted someone's page and then not restored it? I get what you are suggesting, but I can't help but to think you are making this way bigger issue than it actually is. Also all of you are missing the most obvious point: if it hasn't happened to a lot (and I mean literally more than 10-20% of user base) it is not a significant risk and thus spending extra effort for literally no gain (and actually probably more of a loss in views/users/buyers/whatever) is not worth paying someone to design you a website and paying for updates and then A) paying for (yet another) 3rd party company to host your website B) learning how to setup, host, update, and maintain your own website. I'm sure most of people on this site could easily setup their own website and run it wherever, but the reason why people are paying you to do such things for living means that most people can't be bothered to learn all the necessary skills.
- interfixus 9y ago
  Good luck posting some controversial point of view on Facebook or similar platforms. They'll axe you in the blink of an eye. It's real. It happens all the time. I have seen it again and again.
  - dajt 9y ago
    I may have a business one day that sells bits for model steam locos. Many people who are likely to be my customers belong to a facebook group, and probably don't use their PCs much except for facebook and e-mail. And if I needed to post a controversial point of view on my model steam loco business page, I've got bigger problems than facebook. I can't stand facebook, but for my purposes it is probably the cheapest, most direct, and low effort way for those people to get to me. It's also probably pretty low effort on my part. The business would never be more than a cottage industry and I certainly wouldn't want to spend ANY money on IT that I could avoid. Anyone here offering to donate their time to keep all my IT in order for the same cost I can do it with facebook, and give me the exposure it will to my potential customers? If so I'll give you my gmail address to get in contact ;)
    - C4stor 9y ago
      I think that your point of view is both : - totally acceptable :-) - not really answering the OP question ! The way I understand it, the question could be phrased : "What costs are we willing to pay to reduce the collective social costs of ultradependence on private companies". You clearly states what are the costs you're not willing to pay, but don't really answer the question which is : what costs would you actually be ready to pay ? (Maybe the answer is none, but I don't feel like you actually state that ?)
      - dajt 9y ago
        There are no costs for IT I'd be willing to pay for. The nature of the business is such that it wouldn't even be worth having a shopping cart type app running. The web presence of the business would basically be an advertisement, newsletter, and contact page. There are related businesses that sell lots of small items, eg nuts, bolts, material, that would be a lot more convenient to use with a shopping cart, but mine doesn't need it.

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a1exyz 9y ago

She wouldn't. But there are many people who don't like Facebook for privacy reasons or other reasons mentioned in this sub-thread. They might opt for such a service. And then it would grow organically if the experience/total package really was more in line what people want out of a web presence. Its not like the whole world would switch overnight