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A full-time salary with benefits, a 20-hour work week, 12 weeks vacation every summer, a state pension, an office with staff and secretaries outfitted with equi

A full-time salary with benefits, a 20-hour work week, 12 weeks vacation every summer, a state pension, an office with staff and secretaries outfitted with equipment you didn't pay for, TA's doing the heavy lifting, Santa Barbara's weather, coastline and restaurants, and of course, tenure. Let me be the first to speak on behalf of all the students and families out there struggling to pay the equivalent purchase price of a brand new BMW 760Li in tuition for a four-year degree while you were actually taking the time to think about, write and publish this tripe: Fk you and the horse you rode in on.

epochwolf 16y ago
Wow, are we just a tad bitter?
- sprout 16y ago
  It's a very fair point though. Time not spent studying is not automatically leisure.
- johnohara 16y ago
  This article is disrespectful of what students have to do to get a college education today. The students they criticize are the same ones pulling the outmoded college cart by paying their tuition with ever increasing amounts of debt. Without those students there would be no salary or study. Plus, the authors students seem to be doing what they are asked and giving back generally positive ratings. Babcock: http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=956122 http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=956122 Marks: http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=493516 http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=493516 So why do they deserve to have such an ungrateful and cynical article written about them? If pointing that out makes me bitter then so be it.
  - epochwolf 16y ago
    > This article is disrespectful of what students have to do to get a college education today. I completely agree with you on this point. I am quite annoyed with the article. > So why do they deserve to have such an ungrateful and cynical article written about them? No they don't. But, do you really need to reply "fuck you and the horse you rode in on?"?
  - crpatino 16y ago
    This is exactly the attitude why I get out of teaching!!! Daddy already paid you loads and loads of money! How is it that you expect me to make, like... an honest effort? Yeah, whatever. The article may be right or wrong, but you are so above it to discuss it in its own merits. No, you paid your money, so you must get your cheese, right? Sorry to let you down, son, but the thing they use in the MATRIX to download skills into a living brain do not exist. It is Science Fiction, it will never be true. You would know that if you grabbed a few damned books and read 'em. And just for the record, I am not old enough to have forgot about all the hours that I wasted while in undergraduate school. At least I did never go crying to the principal office to complain that i did not get the grades i "deserved".
- tomjen3 16y ago
  Maybe, but might he also be right?

epochwolf 16y ago

Wow, are we just a tad bitter?

sprout 16y ago
It's a very fair point though. Time not spent studying is not automatically leisure.
johnohara 16y ago
This article is disrespectful of what students have to do to get a college education today. The students they criticize are the same ones pulling the outmoded college cart by paying their tuition with ever increasing amounts of debt. Without those students there would be no salary or study. Plus, the authors students seem to be doing what they are asked and giving back generally positive ratings. Babcock: http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=956122 http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=956122 Marks: http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=493516 http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=493516 So why do they deserve to have such an ungrateful and cynical article written about them? If pointing that out makes me bitter then so be it.
- epochwolf 16y ago
  > This article is disrespectful of what students have to do to get a college education today. I completely agree with you on this point. I am quite annoyed with the article. > So why do they deserve to have such an ungrateful and cynical article written about them? No they don't. But, do you really need to reply "fuck you and the horse you rode in on?"?
- crpatino 16y ago
  This is exactly the attitude why I get out of teaching!!! Daddy already paid you loads and loads of money! How is it that you expect me to make, like... an honest effort? Yeah, whatever. The article may be right or wrong, but you are so above it to discuss it in its own merits. No, you paid your money, so you must get your cheese, right? Sorry to let you down, son, but the thing they use in the MATRIX to download skills into a living brain do not exist. It is Science Fiction, it will never be true. You would know that if you grabbed a few damned books and read 'em. And just for the record, I am not old enough to have forgot about all the hours that I wasted while in undergraduate school. At least I did never go crying to the principal office to complain that i did not get the grades i "deserved".
tomjen3 16y ago
Maybe, but might he also be right?