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I swear this DB could solve all the technical problems in the world and it will still have an image problem ... unless that is the point.

ryanmarsh 9y ago
I'm not going to type that word over and over for the rest of the time I have to maintain an application and I won't make others do it either. Some projects have been accused of being to cheeky, or taking metaphors too far, and that can be forgiven but CockroachDB might as well have been named Pancreatic Cancer or Genital Warts as far as I'm concerned.
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- knome 9y ago
  This sort of reply seems so ludicrous to me. It's a bug. How can you guys use the net, knowing what spider-related metaphors lie hidden in its tangled web?
  - swsieber 9y ago
    Easy. It has deeper roots in the internet for me than in insects. You know, multiple definitions. Cockroach on the other hand is very strongly associated with insects and disgust. I do think it interferes with adoption. I don't think it'll kill it though.
    - JusticeJuice 9y ago
      I think the name's actually pretty good at selling it's key value, particularly to business people / management. "It's called cockroach db - because it'll survive anything"
      - ryanmarsh 9y ago
        I stepped on a cockroach last night. Seemed pretty fragile to me.
        Can_Not 9y ago
        The colony in your wall endured zero downtime.
      - nilved 9y ago
        That connotation seems obvious but I didn't pick up on it until months after I heard about CockroachDB. For one, a minority of people who know about cockroaches know about their resilience. For two, people who _do_ know that still know that cockroaches are disgusting. The reptile brain is going to react with revulsion even if the higher brain finds the metaphor.
        Can_Not 9y ago
        For me, I've overlooked it because by the name I assumed it was meant to be a "worse mongoDB". I've found out recently it's more like Postgre.
        nl 9y ago
        The reptile brain is going to react with revulsion As someone who knows someone who is very scared of reptiles but had a pet cockroach the irony of this statement amuses me greatly.
  - ryanmarsh 9y ago
    It's not called the World Wide Puss Filled Spider Bite, it's called the World Wide Web, I honestly never thought of the spider connotation till you mentioned it.
    - _pmf_ 9y ago
      To be fair, in Ye Olden Days, web crawlers[0] were called spiders. [0] Of course, web crawlers are no longer called web crawlers, either
- anon12345690 9y ago
  "lol" is the only response to this. fine then, don't use it. why did you even click on this story? it must be tough being so sensitive, let along being so irrational about judging a piece of tech on actual merit. big diff between cockroachdb and genital warts
  - ryanmarsh 9y ago
    Thanks for your concern. I'll be fine.
dang 9y ago
"Please avoid introducing classic flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say about them." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- kainolophobia 9y ago
  Assuming that the animal was chosen based on it's survival traits, I think C. elegans might be a better choice. ElegantDB?
- atomical 9y ago
  Do you have a list of classic flamewar topics?
  - dang 9y ago
    No; such a list would encourage flamewars about the topics not on it and metaflamewars about the list itself.
    - atomical 9y ago
      So basically the list is in your head? That's not very open.
      - dang 9y ago
        HN is moderated! That means humans making interpretations and judgment calls. There's no way to make that 'open' in the sense I imagine you mean, but we try our best to be 'open' in the sense of being clear about what we're doing and answering questions about particular cases. What we don't do is formalize everything, because a) that's impossible and b) what a nightmare it would be to try.
delinka 9y ago
I think it's a perfect opportunity to combine a rooster and a doobie into a logo.
- logicchains 9y ago
  Someone should write a formal proof of correctness in Coq.
sellaname 9y ago
Sounds to me like an opportunity for a dual trademark business model. Similarly to a dual license model where you receive the software with a restrictive license like AGPL whose only purpose is to make the software undesirable to companies and a paid permissive licene like MIT you could also use an undesirable trademark for the free version and a professional trademark that companies are willing to associate themselves with.
sebastian 9y ago
Same discussion every time there is a post about CockroachDB. It's time to get over it.
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Splatter 9y ago
I actually clicked on the comments to this article specifically to see, and laugh at, the flamewar I knew was going to ensue.
m_sahaf 9y ago
Someone has a solution to your problem: https://github.com/tschottdorf/bikesheddb https://github.com/tschottdorf/bikesheddb

ryanmarsh 9y ago

I'm not going to type that word over and over for the rest of the time I have to maintain an application and I won't make others do it either. Some projects have been accused of being to cheeky, or taking metaphors too far, and that can be forgiven but CockroachDB might as well have been named Pancreatic Cancer or Genital Warts as far as I'm concerned.

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knome 9y ago
This sort of reply seems so ludicrous to me. It's a bug. How can you guys use the net, knowing what spider-related metaphors lie hidden in its tangled web?
- swsieber 9y ago
  Easy. It has deeper roots in the internet for me than in insects. You know, multiple definitions. Cockroach on the other hand is very strongly associated with insects and disgust. I do think it interferes with adoption. I don't think it'll kill it though.
  - JusticeJuice 9y ago
    I think the name's actually pretty good at selling it's key value, particularly to business people / management. "It's called cockroach db - because it'll survive anything"
    - ryanmarsh 9y ago
      I stepped on a cockroach last night. Seemed pretty fragile to me.
      - Can_Not 9y ago
        The colony in your wall endured zero downtime.
    - nilved 9y ago
      That connotation seems obvious but I didn't pick up on it until months after I heard about CockroachDB. For one, a minority of people who know about cockroaches know about their resilience. For two, people who _do_ know that still know that cockroaches are disgusting. The reptile brain is going to react with revulsion even if the higher brain finds the metaphor.
      - Can_Not 9y ago
        For me, I've overlooked it because by the name I assumed it was meant to be a "worse mongoDB". I've found out recently it's more like Postgre.
      - nl 9y ago
        The reptile brain is going to react with revulsion As someone who knows someone who is very scared of reptiles but had a pet cockroach the irony of this statement amuses me greatly.
- ryanmarsh 9y ago
  It's not called the World Wide Puss Filled Spider Bite, it's called the World Wide Web, I honestly never thought of the spider connotation till you mentioned it.
  - _pmf_ 9y ago
    To be fair, in Ye Olden Days, web crawlers[0] were called spiders. [0] Of course, web crawlers are no longer called web crawlers, either
anon12345690 9y ago
"lol" is the only response to this. fine then, don't use it. why did you even click on this story? it must be tough being so sensitive, let along being so irrational about judging a piece of tech on actual merit. big diff between cockroachdb and genital warts
- ryanmarsh 9y ago
  Thanks for your concern. I'll be fine.

dang 9y ago

"Please avoid introducing classic flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say about them." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

kainolophobia 9y ago
Assuming that the animal was chosen based on it's survival traits, I think C. elegans might be a better choice. ElegantDB?
atomical 9y ago
Do you have a list of classic flamewar topics?
- dang 9y ago
  No; such a list would encourage flamewars about the topics not on it and metaflamewars about the list itself.
  - atomical 9y ago
    So basically the list is in your head? That's not very open.
    - dang 9y ago
      HN is moderated! That means humans making interpretations and judgment calls. There's no way to make that 'open' in the sense I imagine you mean, but we try our best to be 'open' in the sense of being clear about what we're doing and answering questions about particular cases. What we don't do is formalize everything, because a) that's impossible and b) what a nightmare it would be to try.

delinka 9y ago

I think it's a perfect opportunity to combine a rooster and a doobie into a logo.

logicchains 9y ago
Someone should write a formal proof of correctness in Coq.

sellaname 9y ago

Sounds to me like an opportunity for a dual trademark business model. Similarly to a dual license model where you receive the software with a restrictive license like AGPL whose only purpose is to make the software undesirable to companies and a paid permissive licene like MIT you could also use an undesirable trademark for the free version and a professional trademark that companies are willing to associate themselves with.

sebastian 9y ago

Same discussion every time there is a post about CockroachDB. It's time to get over it.

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Splatter 9y ago

I actually clicked on the comments to this article specifically to see, and laugh at, the flamewar I knew was going to ensue.

m_sahaf 9y ago

Someone has a solution to your problem: https://github.com/tschottdorf/bikesheddb https://github.com/tschottdorf/bikesheddb