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The glib response is to point out the difference between Apple's and Google's business models. Apple makes money by selling devices, Google sells ads (i.e. sell

The glib response is to point out the difference between Apple's and Google's business models. Apple makes money by selling devices, Google sells ads (i.e. sells their customers' data to advertisers).

BoorishBears 9y ago
And that Apple is the OEM behind the device that runs their OS, and Google (usually) isn't.
- throwanem 9y ago
  Also that Android only gained the ability to enforce iOS-style fine-grained app permissions (prompting on first use for access to camera, location, etc., instead of a blanket grant at install time) one major version ago, which means that many if not most users can't actually get the benefit without buying a newer phone. I gather there are some questions around the strength of its app sandboxing as well, but I can't speak to that at all. Perhaps someone better informed will do so.
  - BoorishBears 9y ago
    Those permissions are also opt-in for devs at the moment (by choosing certain OS versions at build time you can still use the old permissions system). I'm an Android dev and to me the biggest problem with Android from every aspect (development, security, monetization) is how poorly new versions of Android are supported on devices. Apple's dig at Android 7 usage vs iOS 10 usage was spot on.
Oletros 9y ago
> (i.e. sells their customers' data to advertisers). This is not true
had2makeanacct 9y ago
>(i.e. sells their customers' data to advertisers) They take the ads, and distribute them to their users based on user taste that's their secret sauce. Giving user data to advertisers would be giving away their secrets I think.
mythz 9y ago
> Google sells ads (i.e. sells their customers' data to advertisers). They sell targeted ads, they do not sell customers' data to advertisers. i.e. Advertisers get to advertise on Google's platforms, but they do not get access to Customer data.

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The glib response is to point out the difference between Apple's and Google's business models. Apple makes money by selling devices, Google sells ads (i.e. sell

by macinjosh 9y ago

BoorishBears 9y ago
And that Apple is the OEM behind the device that runs their OS, and Google (usually) isn't.
- throwanem 9y ago
  Also that Android only gained the ability to enforce iOS-style fine-grained app permissions (prompting on first use for access to camera, location, etc., instead of a blanket grant at install time) one major version ago, which means that many if not most users can't actually get the benefit without buying a newer phone. I gather there are some questions around the strength of its app sandboxing as well, but I can't speak to that at all. Perhaps someone better informed will do so.
  - BoorishBears 9y ago
    Those permissions are also opt-in for devs at the moment (by choosing certain OS versions at build time you can still use the old permissions system). I'm an Android dev and to me the biggest problem with Android from every aspect (development, security, monetization) is how poorly new versions of Android are supported on devices. Apple's dig at Android 7 usage vs iOS 10 usage was spot on.
Oletros 9y ago
> (i.e. sells their customers' data to advertisers). This is not true
had2makeanacct 9y ago
>(i.e. sells their customers' data to advertisers) They take the ads, and distribute them to their users based on user taste that's their secret sauce. Giving user data to advertisers would be giving away their secrets I think.
mythz 9y ago
> Google sells ads (i.e. sells their customers' data to advertisers). They sell targeted ads, they do not sell customers' data to advertisers. i.e. Advertisers get to advertise on Google's platforms, but they do not get access to Customer data.