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> It's like I got a special deal from my gym for unlimited access. If next year they won't offer it anymore I cannot say "it was not unlimited". That is a very

> It's like I got a special deal from my gym for unlimited access. If next year they won't offer it anymore I cannot say "it was not unlimited". That is a very anti-consumer way of looking at it. Storage, especially for businesses, is not like a gym membership. These bait and switch tactics are harmful for the consumer as well as the industry itself. You place a certain trust with data storage companies. Alot of media companies can easily have 30 terabytes of data to backup or share. They kill the unlimited plan with essentially a price hike. Now I am wondering "when is the next price hike coming"? Amazon has already cut their CLI interface and their web interface is terrible. I would rather just keep it on a NAS with NextCloud.

dhimes 9y ago
You place a certain trust with data storage companies. I think the point is that now we know not to.
- csdreamer7 9y ago
  Noah has been ranting about this long before Amazon and Onedrive did this.
PretzelFisch 9y ago
I don't think you can call it bait and switch. That would imply that they offered you unlimited but only gave you a limited amount. They did allow unlimited storage, they have now decided to remove this product and offer something else in it's place. The consumer can choose to stay or leave. It's difficult to leave, but it's the same kind of deal when your apartment's lease is not renewed. I can't really see this as anti-consumer
- csdreamer7 9y ago
  I assumed bait and switch now encompassed this marketing tactic. If you know the exact term this tactic is called please let me know. > The consumer can choose to stay or leave. . It's difficult to leave, but it's the same kind of deal when your apartment's lease is not renewed. I can't really see this as anti-consumer Your argument is simply: consumers deal with something like this for an unrelated industry so it is not anti-consumer. That is not a good argument. edit: also, renting is a very poor example. There are laws that govern how much rent can be raised that vary based on jurisdiction. If renting wasn't anti-consumer why would such laws exist? No such laws against gouging against for data storage which undermines your argument.
mrighele 9y ago
> That is a very anti-consumer way of looking at it. Storage, especially for businesses, is not like a gym membership. > These bait and switch tactics are harmful for the consumer as well as the industry itself. The point of the comparison was to stress the fact that unlimited amount of space doesn't necessarily mean for an unlimited amount of time. > Storage, especially for businesses, is not like a gym membership. I though that the unlimited plan was only for personal use. If it was open to businesses I understand why it became so quickly a money sink for Amazon.

dhimes 9y ago

You place a certain trust with data storage companies. I think the point is that now we know not to.

csdreamer7 9y ago
Noah has been ranting about this long before Amazon and Onedrive did this.

PretzelFisch 9y ago

I don't think you can call it bait and switch. That would imply that they offered you unlimited but only gave you a limited amount. They did allow unlimited storage, they have now decided to remove this product and offer something else in it's place. The consumer can choose to stay or leave. It's difficult to leave, but it's the same kind of deal when your apartment's lease is not renewed. I can't really see this as anti-consumer

csdreamer7 9y ago
I assumed bait and switch now encompassed this marketing tactic. If you know the exact term this tactic is called please let me know. > The consumer can choose to stay or leave. . It's difficult to leave, but it's the same kind of deal when your apartment's lease is not renewed. I can't really see this as anti-consumer Your argument is simply: consumers deal with something like this for an unrelated industry so it is not anti-consumer. That is not a good argument. edit: also, renting is a very poor example. There are laws that govern how much rent can be raised that vary based on jurisdiction. If renting wasn't anti-consumer why would such laws exist? No such laws against gouging against for data storage which undermines your argument.

mrighele 9y ago

> That is a very anti-consumer way of looking at it. Storage, especially for businesses, is not like a gym membership. > These bait and switch tactics are harmful for the consumer as well as the industry itself. The point of the comparison was to stress the fact that unlimited amount of space doesn't necessarily mean for an unlimited amount of time. > Storage, especially for businesses, is not like a gym membership. I though that the unlimited plan was only for personal use. If it was open to businesses I understand why it became so quickly a money sink for Amazon.