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Hoping comments can resist the urge to turn this into an apple bashing thread. Having someone purposefully steal your data from the inside doesn't mean you don

Hoping comments can resist the urge to turn this into an apple bashing thread. Having someone purposefully steal your data from the inside doesn't mean you don't care about privacy. They likely won't reveal anything but I'm curious how they could get the info out of Apple systems. Most companies of Apple's size lock down work stations to the point of slowing down workers efficiency to keep customer data safe. Especially with their over seas operations.

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canuckintime 9y ago
The article author couldn't determine from the police statement if the criminals had access to just chinese customer data or foreign customer data as well. If the criminals had access to foreign customer data as well that would a failing on Apple's part (and might result in some sanction in Europe for example which has been placing more emphasis on the privacy of its citizens' data with American companies after the reveals from Snowden)
cm2187 9y ago
Hum. No one is giving some slack to a bank for having rogue employees. Part of the job of being a large organisation is ensuring your employees do not misbehave. In this case at the very least ensure they have minimum access to users data.
- falcolas 9y ago
  Or setting up the technology so nobody at apple can even access the unencrypted data. Much more effective than policies that you expect people to follow. I work at a fairly security conscious company, and the only data I can't access is that encrypted at the consumer's end.
bo1024 9y ago
> Having someone purposefully steal your data from the inside doesn't mean you don't care about privacy. True, Apple cares much more than average. It shows that our current tech world has such a poor emphasis on privacy that even the companies that care most still screw up big.
CaptSpify 9y ago
Interesting that you say that, because Google is constantly being bashed here for it's lack of privacy concerns (rightly so, IMO). When Apple makes the similar mistakes, I feel that they should also be bashed. I don't think of them as an "evil" company, like Google, but they do seem incompetent, or maybe more fairly: focused on the wrong things. They've touted before that they are the company to use if you want your data to remain private and secure, but continue to act in direct violation of that. This seems highly problematic to me, and, IMO, they should be raked over the coals for this.

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canuckintime 9y ago

The article author couldn't determine from the police statement if the criminals had access to just chinese customer data or foreign customer data as well. If the criminals had access to foreign customer data as well that would a failing on Apple's part (and might result in some sanction in Europe for example which has been placing more emphasis on the privacy of its citizens' data with American companies after the reveals from Snowden)

cm2187 9y ago

Hum. No one is giving some slack to a bank for having rogue employees. Part of the job of being a large organisation is ensuring your employees do not misbehave. In this case at the very least ensure they have minimum access to users data.

falcolas 9y ago
Or setting up the technology so nobody at apple can even access the unencrypted data. Much more effective than policies that you expect people to follow. I work at a fairly security conscious company, and the only data I can't access is that encrypted at the consumer's end.

bo1024 9y ago

> Having someone purposefully steal your data from the inside doesn't mean you don't care about privacy. True, Apple cares much more than average. It shows that our current tech world has such a poor emphasis on privacy that even the companies that care most still screw up big.

CaptSpify 9y ago

Interesting that you say that, because Google is constantly being bashed here for it's lack of privacy concerns (rightly so, IMO). When Apple makes the similar mistakes, I feel that they should also be bashed. I don't think of them as an "evil" company, like Google, but they do seem incompetent, or maybe more fairly: focused on the wrong things. They've touted before that they are the company to use if you want your data to remain private and secure, but continue to act in direct violation of that. This seems highly problematic to me, and, IMO, they should be raked over the coals for this.