> As a manager, if you have a clueless 20-year old making an inappropriate proposition to one of your reports... This is the hypothetical example people often

> As a manager, if you have a clueless 20-year old making an inappropriate proposition to one of your reports... This is the hypothetical example people often give; but that is probably the easiest imaginable case. Fowler's report is regarding a manager who'd been with the company for several years -- not twenty years old unless they started in their teens -- who was a hardened and repeat offender. That seems to be more inline with what actually happens. Clueless people can be corrected. What we're talking about here is very different.