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> I don’t a-priori assume that the incident was rooted in sexism So who is sexist in this scenario? Turns out its the feminist in the audience assuming that a
by masondixon 9y ago
> I don’t a-priori assume that the incident was rooted in sexism
So who is sexist in this scenario?
Turns out its the feminist in the audience assuming that a woman needs someone to cause a public disturbance because she could not help herself be heard.
Why is it every time some social justice event gains public attention, it turns out to not be sexism/racist/etc. at all.
- aggie 9y agoTo say "every time some social justice event gains public attention, it turns out to not be sexism/racist/etc. at all" seems like a wild overgeneralization. You would probably be more accurate in saying that while "sexism/racism/etc" are often over-attributed as a cause, they are in fact pervasive, but to varying degrees of influence. The first mistake is to assume there's a singular cause of any behavior.
- weberc2 9y agoHe was plainly speaking figuratively...
- aggie 9y agoI'd be charitable to their claim if they left it at 'every time', but to say the incidents are not due to sexism 'at all' is not a good argument, even interpreted figuratively.
- masondixon 9y ago> 'every time' ...is clearly figuratively as the commenter mentioned.
- weberc2 9y agoThat seems like an arbitrary place to draw a line; it still seems completely, unambiguously figurative to me, but I'm not going to argue the point.
- onion2k 9y agoSo who is sexist in this scenario? Maybe it's no one. A simple test is to ask yourself if you believe it'd have been sexist for a man to have done the same thing. I think we'd all just assume it was someone interested in what the woman on the panel had to say. It's not automatically 'sexist', or even feminist, for a woman to speak up for another woman.
- weberc2 9y agoBecause our society has advanced a lot in the last fifty years, but some people want to profit from the appearance of "fighting injustice" or perhaps they feel they need some sort of moral consolation?
- masondixon 9y agoI really want to understand the internal monologue of these people. There is some culmination of factors that must result in this need to fight injustice. It just feels like they have some chip on their shoulder from adolescents. Being bullied at school. Having gone through a bad breakup. Something like that.
- weberc2 9y agoI agree. I think social justice became an identity or a tribe, and each w̵a̵r̵r̵i̵o̵r̵ person in the tribe joined for their own particular mix of reasons (some were probably legitimately the victims of a prejudice and were overcome with hate for their aggressor and his/her racial/gender/etc group, others may have simply made friends with SJ-types in their formative years and taken on the identity, etc). Once an ideology becomes tribal, it's more or less impervious to rational thought. I think this is probably the case and not just wanton psycho-analysis because it mirrors social psychological work done about politics generally.
- _pmf_ 9y agoThat's exactly my interpretation of the situation. The moderator is exceedingly polite towards everyone; there's not a trace of sexism.
- masondixon 9y agoSo sad how everyone has been brainwashed onto this feminist band-wagon. Before everyone was chill, and now everyone is on the hunt for the slightest sign of sexism like its a treasure hunt. And instead of acting from a calm, rationale state, she says herself that she was "literally shaking". Most of the time you find yourself "literally shaking" you are probably going to do something dumb. Take a breath. Extract yourself from the situation. And come back when your calm.