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I find JS requirements perfectly acceptable for maps, twitter, youtube, and netflix. Particularly maps.

by tcfunk 9y ago

scaryclam 9y ago
- Twitter, is quite literally, a text based feed. There's no reason for this not to work without JS - Netflix would depend on what you're doing. Much of it can work just fine as text, images and forms - Youtube has a lot of text and the videos could be played without JS if they wanted to bother (HTML5 ftw!) - Maps can also work OK without JS (just without the additional stuff, which is fine for progressive enhancement). Google "google maps without JS" for examples of what other people have done. I'm pretty sure you could also get around JS with pure HTML5 + CSS3, but I have no examples of it
- linkmotif 9y ago
  So easy to write this in a comment but none of this is true. Twitter is not a text based feed. If it was, people would still expect it to be iteractive w/o full page reloads. Same goes for all your examples. DHTML happened, and for a reason. It's not going to unhappen.
  - user15672 9y ago
    Wow...just...wow! Look, I don't want to be mean, I understand you believe what you're saying, but, really, just no. You really do not understand how the things you're talking about work. For your own sake, go learn some more before jumping into comment here.
    - dang 9y ago
      Please don't post unsubstantive personal attacks (which this is) to HN. If you know more than someone else, teach them; then we all learn. If you don't want to do that or don't have time, that's fine, but then please just don't post anything. Commenting just to condescend about how ignorant someone is, instead of helping them, is lame.
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carussell 9y ago
"Acceptable" is not the question. I asked for which sites you'd find JS to be necessary.
cpburns2009 9y ago
Maps would be severely limited without JavaScript. However, Twitter, YouTube, and Netflix could just as easily be implemented using standard HTML <form> and <video> tags without much loss of functionality.
sedachv 9y ago
Why? You can use Youtube just fine with w3m and an external media player: http://francismurillo.github.io/2017-01-11-Using-vlc-With-w3m/ http://francismurillo.github.io/2017-01-11-Using-vlc-With-w3...

I find JS requirements perfectly acceptable for maps, twitter, youtube, and netflix. Particularly maps.

by tcfunk 9y ago

I find JS requirements perfectly acceptable for maps, twitter, youtube, and netflix. Particularly maps.

- Twitter, is quite literally, a text based feed. There's no reason for this not to work without JS - Netflix would depend on what you're doing. Much of it can work just fine as text, images and forms - Youtube has a lot of text and the videos could be played without JS if they wanted to bother (HTML5 ftw!) - Maps can also work OK without JS (just without the additional stuff, which is fine for progressive enhancement). Google "google maps without JS" for examples of what other people have done. I'm pretty sure you could also get around JS with pure HTML5 + CSS3, but I have no examples of it

linkmotif 9y ago
So easy to write this in a comment but none of this is true. Twitter is not a text based feed. If it was, people would still expect it to be iteractive w/o full page reloads. Same goes for all your examples. DHTML happened, and for a reason. It's not going to unhappen.
- user15672 9y ago
  Wow...just...wow! Look, I don't want to be mean, I understand you believe what you're saying, but, really, just no. You really do not understand how the things you're talking about work. For your own sake, go learn some more before jumping into comment here.
  - dang 9y ago
    Please don't post unsubstantive personal attacks (which this is) to HN. If you know more than someone else, teach them; then we all learn. If you don't want to do that or don't have time, that's fine, but then please just don't post anything. Commenting just to condescend about how ignorant someone is, instead of helping them, is lame.

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carussell 9y ago

"Acceptable" is not the question. I asked for which sites you'd find JS to be necessary.

cpburns2009 9y ago

Maps would be severely limited without JavaScript. However, Twitter, YouTube, and Netflix could just as easily be implemented using standard HTML <form> and <video> tags without much loss of functionality.

sedachv 9y ago

Why? You can use Youtube just fine with w3m and an external media player: http://francismurillo.github.io/2017-01-11-Using-vlc-With-w3m/ http://francismurillo.github.io/2017-01-11-Using-vlc-With-w3...