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Thanks for the clarification. That's exactly the point I wanted to make. But also note that the moderator called the person from the audience "heckling" just b

by vog 9y ago

Thanks for the clarification. That's exactly the point I wanted to make. But also note that the moderator called the person from the audience "heckling" just because she made him aware of his inappropriate behaviour. If not sexism, this is at least a clear sign of ignorance.

monksy 9y ago
That is exactly what a heckling is: > interrupt (a public speaker) with derisive or aggressive comments or abuse. When a member yells out something from the audience to someone on stage: That's a heckle. They forced a break in the 4th wall. (yes, the audience member was right, but so was the moderator in that small instance)
- Avenger42 9y ago
  What was said ("let her speak, please") doesn't fit any of those categories. It was an interruption, but not derisive, aggressive, or abusive.
  - monksy 9y ago
    It was aggressive. The statement was a command (followed by a desperate request) deriding the behavior and speech of the moderator. Why do you feel that calling the person who interjected a "heckler" is a bad thing?
    - vog 9y ago
      First, "heckler" has negative connotation, while the interruption itself was helpful and to the point. Second, attaching such an attribute at all to that person was inappropriate, given she pointed out an obvious misbehaviour of the moderator. An appropriate reaction would have been: "Oh, I didn't notice. Thanks for pointing this out!"
      - monksy 9y ago
        The emotional attachment was added by the listener/reader of the word. > Second, attaching such an attribute at all to that person was inappropriate, given she pointed out an obvious misbehaviour of the moderator. That is an assumption based on your emotional connection to the word. No one believes that the moderator's behavior was "bad" (different attributions have been made) > An appropriate reaction would have been: "Oh, I didn't notice. Thanks for pointing this out!" I would strongly disagree with that. It's impressive that he recognized the heckle, and didn't respond negatively. From what I saw he acknowledged the event and made the correction. For someone to do that on stage is VERY impressive. That takes a lot of experience and a lot of skill. (Many performers respond very negative to a heckle). The heckle broke the 4th wall, it was processed by the moderator, acknowledged (mentally and then verbally) without anger (which requires processing and understanding), the suggestion (I'm being generous in that) was taken, and the moderator returned back to the 4th wall with the context prior. That's a freaking amazing job.
        monksy 9y ago
        > No one believes that the moderator's behavior was "bad" (different attributions have been made) Err meant to say: No one believes that the heckler's behavior was "bad" (different attributions have been made)
      - xor1 9y ago
        Have you ever been on stage? Have you ever interacted with an audience member who has addressed you in a way similar to what happened here?

by vog 9y ago

monksy 9y ago

That is exactly what a heckling is: > interrupt (a public speaker) with derisive or aggressive comments or abuse. When a member yells out something from the audience to someone on stage: That's a heckle. They forced a break in the 4th wall. (yes, the audience member was right, but so was the moderator in that small instance)

Avenger42 9y ago
What was said ("let her speak, please") doesn't fit any of those categories. It was an interruption, but not derisive, aggressive, or abusive.
- monksy 9y ago
  It was aggressive. The statement was a command (followed by a desperate request) deriding the behavior and speech of the moderator. Why do you feel that calling the person who interjected a "heckler" is a bad thing?
  - vog 9y ago
    First, "heckler" has negative connotation, while the interruption itself was helpful and to the point. Second, attaching such an attribute at all to that person was inappropriate, given she pointed out an obvious misbehaviour of the moderator. An appropriate reaction would have been: "Oh, I didn't notice. Thanks for pointing this out!"
    - monksy 9y ago
      The emotional attachment was added by the listener/reader of the word. > Second, attaching such an attribute at all to that person was inappropriate, given she pointed out an obvious misbehaviour of the moderator. That is an assumption based on your emotional connection to the word. No one believes that the moderator's behavior was "bad" (different attributions have been made) > An appropriate reaction would have been: "Oh, I didn't notice. Thanks for pointing this out!" I would strongly disagree with that. It's impressive that he recognized the heckle, and didn't respond negatively. From what I saw he acknowledged the event and made the correction. For someone to do that on stage is VERY impressive. That takes a lot of experience and a lot of skill. (Many performers respond very negative to a heckle). The heckle broke the 4th wall, it was processed by the moderator, acknowledged (mentally and then verbally) without anger (which requires processing and understanding), the suggestion (I'm being generous in that) was taken, and the moderator returned back to the 4th wall with the context prior. That's a freaking amazing job.
      - monksy 9y ago
        > No one believes that the moderator's behavior was "bad" (different attributions have been made) Err meant to say: No one believes that the heckler's behavior was "bad" (different attributions have been made)
    - xor1 9y ago
      Have you ever been on stage? Have you ever interacted with an audience member who has addressed you in a way similar to what happened here?