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Unsurprising? So it is an easy thing to do to at least equal Intel with their vast experience after only a few years, when no one else is able to do it? By the

Unsurprising? So it is an easy thing to do to at least equal Intel with their vast experience after only a few years, when no one else is able to do it? By the way if you have a problem with the number of cores just compare the single core score. I don't see a problem though, it they can cram one more core in same tdp then it's fair. The jury is still out wether Apple could compete with Intel at those higher TDPs (15w-28w-45w)

zrm 9y ago
> By the way if you have a problem with the number of cores just compare the single core score. Then the Intel processor comes out ahead despite the iPad having a higher clock speed. > I don't see a problem though, it they can cram one more core in same tdp then it's fair. The quad core i5-7442EQ will destroy the dual core i5-7267U at anything threaded even though it has a lower TDP. Having more cores is an asymmetric advantage in threaded benchmarks.
- asendra 9y ago
  Ignore the stated frequency in the geekbench page as its almost always wrong. That intel cpu is pegged at 3.2Ghz for the duration of the bench vs (supposedly) 2.36Ghz on the iPad.
spronkey 9y ago
Well, Intel kinda paved the way for most of the performance improvement ideas in these CPUs already. The fruit is hanging further and further up the tree. It's unlikely that the A series would be able to compete with the Intel CPUs at significantly higher TDPs from the get go - especially when you start considering interconnections between cores etc. They might be able to get close to lower TDP desktop i5s, but then just look at the difficulty Ryzen is having at doing just that...
Lagged2Death 9y ago
So it is an easy thing to do to at least equal Intel with their vast experience after only a few years... ARM will be 27 years old this year.
- mastax 9y ago
  They're talking specifically about Apple's SoCs which have only been produced for a few years (2011?).
  - eropple 9y ago
    Sure. Which are based on twenty years of bootstrapping, at minimum, and the forward, technical trailblazing of Intel et al. Catching up is easier than pushing the envelope. It's impressive, but it's not earth-shattering.
    - gpderetta 9y ago
      Still nobody expected Apple to get this good so quickly.

zrm 9y ago

> By the way if you have a problem with the number of cores just compare the single core score. Then the Intel processor comes out ahead despite the iPad having a higher clock speed. > I don't see a problem though, it they can cram one more core in same tdp then it's fair. The quad core i5-7442EQ will destroy the dual core i5-7267U at anything threaded even though it has a lower TDP. Having more cores is an asymmetric advantage in threaded benchmarks.

asendra 9y ago
Ignore the stated frequency in the geekbench page as its almost always wrong. That intel cpu is pegged at 3.2Ghz for the duration of the bench vs (supposedly) 2.36Ghz on the iPad.

spronkey 9y ago

Well, Intel kinda paved the way for most of the performance improvement ideas in these CPUs already. The fruit is hanging further and further up the tree. It's unlikely that the A series would be able to compete with the Intel CPUs at significantly higher TDPs from the get go - especially when you start considering interconnections between cores etc. They might be able to get close to lower TDP desktop i5s, but then just look at the difficulty Ryzen is having at doing just that...

Lagged2Death 9y ago

So it is an easy thing to do to at least equal Intel with their vast experience after only a few years... ARM will be 27 years old this year.

mastax 9y ago
They're talking specifically about Apple's SoCs which have only been produced for a few years (2011?).
- eropple 9y ago
  Sure. Which are based on twenty years of bootstrapping, at minimum, and the forward, technical trailblazing of Intel et al. Catching up is easier than pushing the envelope. It's impressive, but it's not earth-shattering.
  - gpderetta 9y ago
    Still nobody expected Apple to get this good so quickly.