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I think this is a better comparison, as both have same TDP and fanless. (That Intel is a Kaby Lake Y Core i5 1.2Ghz/3.2Ghz Boost cpu) Edit for perspective: Tha

I think this is a better comparison, as both have same TDP and fanless. (That Intel is a Kaby Lake Y Core i5 1.2Ghz/3.2Ghz Boost cpu) Edit for perspective: Thats the same cpu in the just upgraded MacBooks. http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/3036382?baseline=2922710 http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/3036382?baseline...

m_mueller 9y ago
That's... incredible.
zrm 9y ago
Both of those are comparing a 3-core iPad with a 2-core Intel CPU. And parity at the same TDP is unsurprising. The trouble is that the i5-7Y57 is quite slow by desktop standards and there is currently no ARM equivalent to 4+ core 45+ watt Intel processors at any TDP.
- asendra 9y ago
  Unsurprising? So it is an easy thing to do to at least equal Intel with their vast experience after only a few years, when no one else is able to do it? By the way if you have a problem with the number of cores just compare the single core score. I don't see a problem though, it they can cram one more core in same tdp then it's fair. The jury is still out wether Apple could compete with Intel at those higher TDPs (15w-28w-45w)
  - zrm 9y ago
    > By the way if you have a problem with the number of cores just compare the single core score. Then the Intel processor comes out ahead despite the iPad having a higher clock speed. > I don't see a problem though, it they can cram one more core in same tdp then it's fair. The quad core i5-7442EQ will destroy the dual core i5-7267U at anything threaded even though it has a lower TDP. Having more cores is an asymmetric advantage in threaded benchmarks.
    - asendra 9y ago
      Ignore the stated frequency in the geekbench page as its almost always wrong. That intel cpu is pegged at 3.2Ghz for the duration of the bench vs (supposedly) 2.36Ghz on the iPad.
  - spronkey 9y ago
    Well, Intel kinda paved the way for most of the performance improvement ideas in these CPUs already. The fruit is hanging further and further up the tree. It's unlikely that the A series would be able to compete with the Intel CPUs at significantly higher TDPs from the get go - especially when you start considering interconnections between cores etc. They might be able to get close to lower TDP desktop i5s, but then just look at the difficulty Ryzen is having at doing just that...
  - Lagged2Death 9y ago
    So it is an easy thing to do to at least equal Intel with their vast experience after only a few years... ARM will be 27 years old this year.
    - mastax 9y ago
      They're talking specifically about Apple's SoCs which have only been produced for a few years (2011?).
      - eropple 9y ago
        Sure. Which are based on twenty years of bootstrapping, at minimum, and the forward, technical trailblazing of Intel et al. Catching up is easier than pushing the envelope. It's impressive, but it's not earth-shattering.
        gpderetta 9y ago
        Still nobody expected Apple to get this good so quickly.

m_mueller 9y ago

That's... incredible.

zrm 9y ago

Both of those are comparing a 3-core iPad with a 2-core Intel CPU. And parity at the same TDP is unsurprising. The trouble is that the i5-7Y57 is quite slow by desktop standards and there is currently no ARM equivalent to 4+ core 45+ watt Intel processors at any TDP.

asendra 9y ago
Unsurprising? So it is an easy thing to do to at least equal Intel with their vast experience after only a few years, when no one else is able to do it? By the way if you have a problem with the number of cores just compare the single core score. I don't see a problem though, it they can cram one more core in same tdp then it's fair. The jury is still out wether Apple could compete with Intel at those higher TDPs (15w-28w-45w)
- zrm 9y ago
  > By the way if you have a problem with the number of cores just compare the single core score. Then the Intel processor comes out ahead despite the iPad having a higher clock speed. > I don't see a problem though, it they can cram one more core in same tdp then it's fair. The quad core i5-7442EQ will destroy the dual core i5-7267U at anything threaded even though it has a lower TDP. Having more cores is an asymmetric advantage in threaded benchmarks.
  - asendra 9y ago
    Ignore the stated frequency in the geekbench page as its almost always wrong. That intel cpu is pegged at 3.2Ghz for the duration of the bench vs (supposedly) 2.36Ghz on the iPad.
- spronkey 9y ago
  Well, Intel kinda paved the way for most of the performance improvement ideas in these CPUs already. The fruit is hanging further and further up the tree. It's unlikely that the A series would be able to compete with the Intel CPUs at significantly higher TDPs from the get go - especially when you start considering interconnections between cores etc. They might be able to get close to lower TDP desktop i5s, but then just look at the difficulty Ryzen is having at doing just that...
- Lagged2Death 9y ago
  So it is an easy thing to do to at least equal Intel with their vast experience after only a few years... ARM will be 27 years old this year.
  - mastax 9y ago
    They're talking specifically about Apple's SoCs which have only been produced for a few years (2011?).
    - eropple 9y ago
      Sure. Which are based on twenty years of bootstrapping, at minimum, and the forward, technical trailblazing of Intel et al. Catching up is easier than pushing the envelope. It's impressive, but it's not earth-shattering.
      - gpderetta 9y ago
        Still nobody expected Apple to get this good so quickly.