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Expect more and lower prices as the non-autopilot cars get traded in for cars with second-gen autopilot hardware. It will be interesting to see how Tesla owner

• Animats 9y ago
  Maybe not. The "second-gen" autopilot hardware is just more cameras and a new radar. No LIDAR yet. Tesla is struggling to get back the performance of their own first-generation autopilot, hopefully without the "crashes into stationary objects partially blocking lane" feature. Tesla is at least one or two more hardware upgrades from Google/Waymo level performance.
  • edsheeran 9y ago
    I've yet to see one Google/Waymo car doing 90mph on the highway with Lane Keeping Assist Level 3 Autopilot. Not ten, not five, or even one. Tesla has thousands of them doing it as you read this.
    • foolfoolz 9y ago
      and how does that make their computer vision hardware any better?
  • myrandomcomment 9y ago
    Cool. Where can I buy a Google / Waymo car? I will be happy to. Sometimes shipping is a key.
    • beambot 9y ago
      The point on shipping is appropriate... But just for clarity: of all the autonomous cars companies that ultimately "succeed", you will probably not be able to purchase cars from at least half of them. You'll only be able to purchase rides.
      • RealityVoid 9y ago
        How are you so sure of this? Maybe yes, maybe not. I think there is a merit to owning you own car and the traditional model might stand up quite well.
        • beambot 9y ago
          I know a lot of people at a lot of robotics companies (including autonomous cars companies), and have spoken at length with them about the ultimate business models. Besides, it makes sense when you consider that most personal vehicles have sub-5% utilization. It's more capital and environmentally responsible to have shared assets rather than underutilizing assets with high embodied costs.
          • HeyLaughingBoy 9y ago
            What may make sense to you and what people end up doing are often wildly different.
        • petters 9y ago
          It's easier to make a car able to drive in a single city. Also, companies like Lyft could deploy manually driven cars for "hard" bookings. Developing an autonomous car for Lyft is easier than developing it for a normal person.
  • bobbington 9y ago
    You don't need lidar for autonomous driving. Musk has made this clear, as does the fact that we drive fine with just 2 cameras in our heads. Once you can solve the computer vision challenge, which they are going to do, you don't need lidar. Also lidar may pose a greater security issue due to potential interference.
• Gaelan 9y ago
  Is the Autopilot not available aftermarket?