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Why would they? You already overpaid for their hardware and ecosystem because you believe in it. A smart consumer would, given the defined variable if not wanti

Why would they? You already overpaid for their hardware and ecosystem because you believe in it. A smart consumer would, given the defined variable if not wanting to switch to android etc, buy a bunch of microsd and backup to them. They sell dongles that plug into any phone's port and hold a microsd. You can even overwrite the card for free. And use its contents when you have no signal. Cloud debates are hilarious to me.

drivebyops 9y ago
Micro sds don't have data integrity that a cloud service would provide
- caliagent 9y ago
  Pure marketing bs. I've never had an unscathed CD-R fail. The cloud is just redundant servers and nothing more.
nine_k 9y ago
Have you seen a MicroSD die before your eyes, failing writes, then reads? I did several times. A RAID array of MicroSDs, or maybe other flash devices, could be more reasonable reliability-wise, but it would be anything but a sleek consumer device. OTOH, Apple is selling the "experience", the polish and automagic features. Maybe iCloud integration leaves a lot to be desired, it still beats a dongle 99% of the time. (Disclaimer: Android user since Android 1.x.)
- caliagent 9y ago
  Yes I have and it's no less horrifying then thinking you can access your cloud server when you suddenly cannot. My point is for a small amount you could afford to buy microsd cards in bulk and backup every day. Or even CD-R/DVD-R/BR-R. But I was trying to keep the discussion to direct transfer from a cellphone as per the parent.
  - nine_k 9y ago
    A relatively hassle-free, alternative local backup solution makes sense! Does it exist? For being realistically useful, it should work either over w-fi, or over cable when attached to a computer.
    - caliagent 9y ago
      Yes as I already described amd you chose to ignore. Pick your choice or backup program that asks what drive and select your sd card. They are also available with wifi dongles.

drivebyops 9y ago

Micro sds don't have data integrity that a cloud service would provide

caliagent 9y ago
Pure marketing bs. I've never had an unscathed CD-R fail. The cloud is just redundant servers and nothing more.

nine_k 9y ago

Have you seen a MicroSD die before your eyes, failing writes, then reads? I did several times. A RAID array of MicroSDs, or maybe other flash devices, could be more reasonable reliability-wise, but it would be anything but a sleek consumer device. OTOH, Apple is selling the "experience", the polish and automagic features. Maybe iCloud integration leaves a lot to be desired, it still beats a dongle 99% of the time. (Disclaimer: Android user since Android 1.x.)

caliagent 9y ago
Yes I have and it's no less horrifying then thinking you can access your cloud server when you suddenly cannot. My point is for a small amount you could afford to buy microsd cards in bulk and backup every day. Or even CD-R/DVD-R/BR-R. But I was trying to keep the discussion to direct transfer from a cellphone as per the parent.
- nine_k 9y ago
  A relatively hassle-free, alternative local backup solution makes sense! Does it exist? For being realistically useful, it should work either over w-fi, or over cable when attached to a computer.
  - caliagent 9y ago
    Yes as I already described amd you chose to ignore. Pick your choice or backup program that asks what drive and select your sd card. They are also available with wifi dongles.