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How much is the version that doesn't auto-share with hackers?

Angostura 9y ago
$10 a month. It says in the headline.
raxip 9y ago
$100 for a 2TB hard drive. Monthly fee to maintain access to your own data: $0. Monthly fee to keep hackers from stealing your information and spreading it all over the Internet: $0. Monthly fee to keep some slimy corporation from handing your data over without your knowledge in response to a secret warrant: $0.
- rakoo 9y ago
  One-time fee for when you want to restore data for the first time in years and bit rot has eaten everything: priceless
  - soupbowl 9y ago
    But of course he was smart and used ZFS so there is no issue with bit rot.
    - rakoo 9y ago
      I was under impression that ZFS on a single disk is pointless, because while an error can be detected it can't be fixed. Am I wrong ?
    - stevefeinstein 9y ago
      Is ZFS fireproof?
a_imho 9y ago
Indeed it does feel like there is an iCloud hack every other year.
- eridius 9y ago
  Except there isn't. AFAIK iCloud has never been hacked. The only big "hack" news about iCloud wasn't actually iCloud being hacked, it was people who reused passwords and were victims of someone else's password breach.
  - VikingCoder 9y ago
    Yeah? How about from the inside? https://www.hongkongfp.com/2017/06/08/china-uncovers-massive-underground-network-apple-employees-selling-customers-personal-data/ https://www.hongkongfp.com/2017/06/08/china-uncovers-massive...
    - eridius 9y ago
      That's... not a hack. That's just employees improperly accessing information about customers and selling it. You'll note that the information is things that Apple naturally has access to like names / phone numbers / Apple IDs, rather than private data stored on customers' devices or in iCloud. No hacking necessary to get this, just breaking internal policy and some laws.
      - a_imho 9y ago
        Of the 22 suspects, 20 were Apple employees ... The suspects, who worked in direct marketing and outsourcing for Apple in China I'm not sure these people should have access to private information by default. You are arguing semantics, it was illegal access of private data on Apple's watch. Even if you do not consider it a hack (~fud), iCloud is in the news again, which was the original point. BTW, to me, taking it at face value, it reads like Apple had no idea what is going on and it was all the work of the police.
        eridius 9y ago
        Employees doing unauthorized things with information that they have access to is not hacking. And iCloud is not in the news again. That article had literally nothing at all to do with iCloud; it didn't even mention it.

$10 a month. It says in the headline.

$100 for a 2TB hard drive. Monthly fee to maintain access to your own data: $0. Monthly fee to keep hackers from stealing your information and spreading it all over the Internet: $0. Monthly fee to keep some slimy corporation from handing your data over without your knowledge in response to a secret warrant: $0.

rakoo 9y ago
One-time fee for when you want to restore data for the first time in years and bit rot has eaten everything: priceless
- soupbowl 9y ago
  But of course he was smart and used ZFS so there is no issue with bit rot.
  - rakoo 9y ago
    I was under impression that ZFS on a single disk is pointless, because while an error can be detected it can't be fixed. Am I wrong ?
  - stevefeinstein 9y ago
    Is ZFS fireproof?

a_imho 9y ago

Indeed it does feel like there is an iCloud hack every other year.

eridius 9y ago
Except there isn't. AFAIK iCloud has never been hacked. The only big "hack" news about iCloud wasn't actually iCloud being hacked, it was people who reused passwords and were victims of someone else's password breach.
- VikingCoder 9y ago
  Yeah? How about from the inside? https://www.hongkongfp.com/2017/06/08/china-uncovers-massive-underground-network-apple-employees-selling-customers-personal-data/ https://www.hongkongfp.com/2017/06/08/china-uncovers-massive...
  - eridius 9y ago
    That's... not a hack. That's just employees improperly accessing information about customers and selling it. You'll note that the information is things that Apple naturally has access to like names / phone numbers / Apple IDs, rather than private data stored on customers' devices or in iCloud. No hacking necessary to get this, just breaking internal policy and some laws.
    - a_imho 9y ago
      Of the 22 suspects, 20 were Apple employees ... The suspects, who worked in direct marketing and outsourcing for Apple in China I'm not sure these people should have access to private information by default. You are arguing semantics, it was illegal access of private data on Apple's watch. Even if you do not consider it a hack (~fud), iCloud is in the news again, which was the original point. BTW, to me, taking it at face value, it reads like Apple had no idea what is going on and it was all the work of the police.
      - eridius 9y ago
        Employees doing unauthorized things with information that they have access to is not hacking. And iCloud is not in the news again. That article had literally nothing at all to do with iCloud; it didn't even mention it.