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Scapegoating isn't the right word, but ThrustVectoring is right. In 12k employees there will be some dicks who sexually harass. You fire them. The problem at
by x0x0 9y ago
Scapegoating isn't the right word, but ThrustVectoring is right. In 12k employees there will be some dicks who sexually harass. You fire them.
The problem at Uber isn't some line level eng or line level management sexually harassed someone; it's that HR and the VP Eng and the CEO all tolerated it. So unless someone whose name goes in SEC filings gets fired, they aren't taking this seriously.
- ghostly_s 9y agoTo be perfectly clear, both of those things are problems. But one is a much bigger problem than he other.
- bigdickrick 9y agoThis is ridiculous and definitely a false dichotomy. I know HN has a hard-on for Uber at the moment, but comments like this are just pure pitchforking. To be clear, I don't condone nor intend to downplay sexual assault at workplaces, nor do I doubt Susan Fowler's account one iota. However, there hasn't been any tangible evidence so far that the dismissal of Susan Fowler's sexual harassment stemmed from a board-level executive or Kalanick himself. All I remember vaguely was an article that was popular on HN that came out after Fowler's account, claiming that such a culture must stem directly from the uppermost echelons of management. Again, to reiterate I don't doubt that Fowler's complaints were ignored by management. My contention is that everyone on HN won't satisfied with anything short of Kalanick's dismissal, when even Susan herself didn't claim that people on the same level as a board-level executive or Kalanick himself were aware of the situation. Middle management, yes. Kalanick-level, no. Imagine if this happened at Walt Disney or Facebook. I don't think it would be reasonable to ask Zuckerberg to step down if a similar blog post came out about Facebook.