>These two terminal multiplexers are really an end-run around unfulfilled wants in the way that the console subsystem should work by default. I beg to differ.

>These two terminal multiplexers are really an end-run around unfulfilled wants in the way that the console subsystem should work by default. I beg to differ. These aren't an end-run around anything, but rather a continuation of a long-standing tradition of isolating terminal events from processes. The fact of existence of a multi-variate number of tools to modify the application-execution environment shouldn't really be a critical point in ones evaluation; this is like complaining about window managers existing, because no true window manager exists.