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I have independently verified Susan Fowler's claim that her management chain didn't treat her case seriously. And by that I mean with a member of her management

by sulam 9y ago

I have independently verified Susan Fowler's claim that her management chain didn't treat her case seriously. And by that I mean with a member of her management chain. If an entire chain of management and HR don't treat a claim like that seriously (no one has disputed the claim), there is absolutely a cultural problem.

Shank 9y ago
> I have independently verified Susan Fowler's claim that her management chain didn't treat her case seriously. And by that I mean with a member of her management chain. Just to verify: are you an Uber employee, then?
- sulam 9y ago
  Nope. I don't need to be to have a conversation. Of course, you could argue the person I was speaking with shouldn't have shared the information with me, but that's their concern.
  - MockObject 9y ago
    We have no way of independently verifying your claim.
    - jsedgwick 9y ago
      Welcome to the internet. You won't like it.
      - justin_vanw 9y ago
        I wish there was some kind of 'best of HN' where this comment could live on forever.
  - korzun 9y ago
    > I have independently verified > Nope. I don't need to be to have a conversation You can't publicly claim that you independently verified something and provide absolutely no information on that verification. You are not a Pope. You started the conversation and chose to share that piece information.
    - throwaway2048 9y ago
      He is free to share it, and you are free to disbelieve it, this isn't a court of law.
      - graphememes 9y ago
        The thread seems to be dismissing it as it is an unsubstantiated claim.
macspoofing 9y ago
>I have independently verified Susan Fowler's claim that her management chain didn't treat her case seriously. And by that I mean with a member of her management chain. I never doubted her account. But it is anecdotal, and you can't extrapolate her singular experience to the entire company.
- quaunaut 9y ago
  Many other women have come forward, including those IN Uber HR. How many have to before it isn't a "singular experience"?
- CodeWriter23 9y ago
  It is categorically NOT anecdotal. The proper word is "testimonial". You cannot simultaneously "never doubt her account" and label it "anecdotal", look it up in the dictionary.
  - macspoofing 9y ago
    Ok. Maybe I used the wrong word.
oh_sigh 9y ago
I have independently verified that Elvis is living on an island in the south Pacific with tupac and biggie.

by sulam 9y ago

Shank 9y ago

> I have independently verified Susan Fowler's claim that her management chain didn't treat her case seriously. And by that I mean with a member of her management chain. Just to verify: are you an Uber employee, then?

sulam 9y ago
Nope. I don't need to be to have a conversation. Of course, you could argue the person I was speaking with shouldn't have shared the information with me, but that's their concern.
- MockObject 9y ago
  We have no way of independently verifying your claim.
  - jsedgwick 9y ago
    Welcome to the internet. You won't like it.
    - justin_vanw 9y ago
      I wish there was some kind of 'best of HN' where this comment could live on forever.
- korzun 9y ago
  > I have independently verified > Nope. I don't need to be to have a conversation You can't publicly claim that you independently verified something and provide absolutely no information on that verification. You are not a Pope. You started the conversation and chose to share that piece information.
  - throwaway2048 9y ago
    He is free to share it, and you are free to disbelieve it, this isn't a court of law.
    - graphememes 9y ago
      The thread seems to be dismissing it as it is an unsubstantiated claim.

macspoofing 9y ago

>I have independently verified Susan Fowler's claim that her management chain didn't treat her case seriously. And by that I mean with a member of her management chain. I never doubted her account. But it is anecdotal, and you can't extrapolate her singular experience to the entire company.

quaunaut 9y ago
Many other women have come forward, including those IN Uber HR. How many have to before it isn't a "singular experience"?
CodeWriter23 9y ago
It is categorically NOT anecdotal. The proper word is "testimonial". You cannot simultaneously "never doubt her account" and label it "anecdotal", look it up in the dictionary.
- macspoofing 9y ago
  Ok. Maybe I used the wrong word.

oh_sigh 9y ago

I have independently verified that Elvis is living on an island in the south Pacific with tupac and biggie.