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Quick note to the founders: You need to add more genders. A lot of early adopters in the Bay Area have friends who are non-binary or are non-binary themselves.
by tryitnow 9y ago
Quick note to the founders: You need to add more genders. A lot of early adopters in the Bay Area have friends who are non-binary or are non-binary themselves. I don't want to be forced to mis-gender people who don't identify as male or female.
- sigi45 9y agoYes! This! Exactly! tx. wait, what?
- cat199 9y agoAlso food products. I identify as lemon jello, personally.
- AndrewOMartin 9y agoI'd argue that Monica should also accept leaving out the gender field all together. I couldn't tell from the front page if it allows this already. I rarely need a reminder of my friends' gender, even if they have an non-gender-specific name. Do the same for marital status if it's not already optional.
- fnordfnordfnord 9y agoWhat kind of info is it for keeping track of then?
- AndrewOMartin 9y agoWhat you did, where you went, that thing they said they have coming up, the names of their kids, big things in their kids future, birthdays, bands they said they liked, places they said you should visit, where they live, where they have lived, institutions they've worked at, why their granddad is notable, minor celebrities they're related to, areas of science they're interested in, games they said they'd like to play. Stuff that was part of the conversation that you might want to recall next time you're speaking to them, or that might make you contact them.
- shmolyneaux 9y agoIf you know your co-worker's child is named "Sam" you don't want to say "son" if she's actually a girl.
- AndrewOMartin 9y agoIf you don't know your co-worker's child's gender, or know it's neither "male" or "female", you don't want to be forced to choose.
- owlmirror 9y agoWhy not? What if you have children and get invited to their birthday party? You would want to choose appropriate presents and greeting cards. It's a tool to help you keeping track of information you don't want to keep track of in your head. My coworkers children are the perfect example for that. Something I do not really care for but something that would make a huge difference.
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- robinhood 9y agoDefinitely. My bad. The kind of stuff you don't think about when you are your only user. I'll add that, as well as the possibility to not indicate gender at all.
- fnordfnordfnord 9y agoThe gender field will have to be changeable as well, since people might come out or change after they join, or after a record is created.
- cyrus_ 9y agoInstead of "gender", you should make it "preferred pronoun".
- springogeek 9y agoI'd like both actually :)
- gwbas1c 9y agoThere's a difference between accepting people for what they are, and getting carried away. A field for "other" or "it's complicated" is plenty.
- jlebrech 9y agoit's opensource
- fmueller 9y agoI think he/she should leave the gender there but add an additional field "identified as gender" or something like this. I mean it should still be possible for me to categorize people by their physical gender/sex. For example it can be important to know whether an individual can get pregnant or not.
- jaclaz 9y ago>For example it can be important to know whether an individual can get pregnant or not. Out of curiosity, can you explain why you would want something like that? You would then need a sub-item for the medical history, one can well be of the "right" gender (female) to become pregnant but be infertile nonetheless, whether from birth, due to some accident or due to the effects of another medical condition doesn't really matter. And that would probably be the kind of information that you shouldn't be allowed to know, record and store online.
- estsauver 9y agoThe distinction that's often used is "Sex" vs "Gender" to distinguish between the two different usages. Sex is biological Male/Female whereas Gender is the social roles a person is performing.
- owlmirror 9y ago>Sex is biological Male/Female whereas Gender is the social roles a person is performing. Only in the framework of some fringe theories. Most people do not make that distinction because they believe that there isn't one.
- brango 9y agoWhat do they refer to themselves as? What other genders would you add?
- psteinweber 9y agoOr simply ask for the biological sex instead. -> Possible answers: Male, Female, Intersex. I find this way of asking being inclusive and in the same time simple to handle from a data/filtering standpoint. Gender identification nowadays (vs. biological sex) can be used as a very creative and highly individual expression. And while that's is totally fine, it's not what I'd be interested in in the context of a CRM.