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It's not nice when "customers" that haven't bought hardware in two years decide they deserve new software that costs money to develop and test for legacy hardwa

It's not nice when "customers" that haven't bought hardware in two years decide they deserve new software that costs money to develop and test for legacy hardware either. They're a business, not a phone firmware charity.

fjh 16y ago
Why the scare quotes around "customers"? You're not a customer unless you buy a new phone at least once a year? (Not that I agree with the parent, I just think you seem awfully eager to put him in a bad light)
- redrobot5050 16y ago
  That would be true if they weren't PAYING for the phone over the span of $199 upfront and a high-priced data plan for the next two years. The actually cost of the phone would be $599 or $699 -- and for that amount of money, I would want AT LEAST two years of support, or a discount when I decide to upgrade models.
  - rbanffy 16y ago
    And, mind you, iPod users have always been forced to pay for newer versions of the OS.
- jsz0 16y ago
  Are you a customer if you've consumed in the past? The iPhone 2G and 3G still have all the functionality they were sold and advertised to have. Any future OS updates are above and beyond that. Before the iPhone was released in 2007 I don't remember any significant OS updates being common on SmartPhones sold in the US. Usually you had to resort to hacked ROMs lifted from newer devices.
rbanffy 16y ago
It's nicer than creating an artificial restriction that obsoletes equipment identical to newer iterations. And keep in mind iPod users have always been forced to pay for the software "that costs money to develop".
- cpr 16y ago
  Yeah, until now.
  - rbanffy 16y ago
    Now some of them will be forced to buy hardware whose profits will subsidize the upgrade for those who have newer models. There is no way to spin this in a nice way. And, for the record, I would be perfectly fine to buy this upgrade.

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It's not nice when "customers" that haven't bought hardware in two years decide they deserve new software that costs money to develop and test for legacy hardwa

by bonzoesc 16y ago

fjh 16y ago
Why the scare quotes around "customers"? You're not a customer unless you buy a new phone at least once a year? (Not that I agree with the parent, I just think you seem awfully eager to put him in a bad light)
- redrobot5050 16y ago
  That would be true if they weren't PAYING for the phone over the span of $199 upfront and a high-priced data plan for the next two years. The actually cost of the phone would be $599 or $699 -- and for that amount of money, I would want AT LEAST two years of support, or a discount when I decide to upgrade models.
  - rbanffy 16y ago
    And, mind you, iPod users have always been forced to pay for newer versions of the OS.
- jsz0 16y ago
  Are you a customer if you've consumed in the past? The iPhone 2G and 3G still have all the functionality they were sold and advertised to have. Any future OS updates are above and beyond that. Before the iPhone was released in 2007 I don't remember any significant OS updates being common on SmartPhones sold in the US. Usually you had to resort to hacked ROMs lifted from newer devices.
rbanffy 16y ago
It's nicer than creating an artificial restriction that obsoletes equipment identical to newer iterations. And keep in mind iPod users have always been forced to pay for the software "that costs money to develop".
- cpr 16y ago
  Yeah, until now.
  - rbanffy 16y ago
    Now some of them will be forced to buy hardware whose profits will subsidize the upgrade for those who have newer models. There is no way to spin this in a nice way. And, for the record, I would be perfectly fine to buy this upgrade.