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This is simply untrue for bandwidth charges if you're pushing a lot of data. A streaming video service, for example, might end up paying $0.10/user/hour. So a

This is simply untrue for bandwidth charges if you're pushing a lot of data. A streaming video service, for example, might end up paying $0.10/user/hour. So a movie-a-night customer would cost $6. What multiple of reasonable do you think that is?

mankash666 9y ago
A good case study is Dropbox. They didn't build any of their own infrastructure until they became big enough (2 years ago).
- Dobbs 9y ago
  Dropbox built their own infrastructure over five years ago. They just took several years to turn the infra from idle to being used.
- Mahh 9y ago
  The fact here isn't quite right. (I'm an employee at Dropbox) Primarily, until 2 years ago we did lean on S3 for all block storage, but most of the rest of the infrastructure (metadata storage, etc) ran in our own datacenters. Your point I think you're getting at sounds like something I'd agree with though -- you can wait a bit the cost efficiency starts to be what is important/impactful to work on before shifting your usage away from some of these providers.
  - late2part 9y ago
    I heard a story once that Dropbox started to move their data out of S3 and AWS rate limited them so they couldn't. I don't know if it's true or not but I heard the story.
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sokoloff 9y ago
About 2-3x. I'm a big fan of cloud computing in general (and AWS in particular as the clear leader, IMO) and helped lead our transition out of colos and into AWS, but the egress charges is the biggest area of AWS that I feel is egregiously over-priced. Fortunately, it's relatively easy to locate some of your very high egress services outside of AWS. I discourage that for casual optimization, but when you get to Netflix/20 scale, that makes sense to trifle with.
- abalone 9y ago
  Speaking of Netflix: “The best way to express it is that everything you see on Netflix up until the play button is on AWS, the actual video is delivered through our CDN,” Netflix spokesperson Joris Evers said.[1] [1] http://www.networkworld.com/article/3037428/cloud-computing/netflix-is-not-really-all-in-on-amazon-s-cloud.html http://www.networkworld.com/article/3037428/cloud-computing/...
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xadhominemx 9y ago
would a scale streaming customer really pay that much?

mankash666 9y ago

A good case study is Dropbox. They didn't build any of their own infrastructure until they became big enough (2 years ago).

Dobbs 9y ago
Dropbox built their own infrastructure over five years ago. They just took several years to turn the infra from idle to being used.
Mahh 9y ago
The fact here isn't quite right. (I'm an employee at Dropbox) Primarily, until 2 years ago we did lean on S3 for all block storage, but most of the rest of the infrastructure (metadata storage, etc) ran in our own datacenters. Your point I think you're getting at sounds like something I'd agree with though -- you can wait a bit the cost efficiency starts to be what is important/impactful to work on before shifting your usage away from some of these providers.
- late2part 9y ago
  I heard a story once that Dropbox started to move their data out of S3 and AWS rate limited them so they couldn't. I don't know if it's true or not but I heard the story.
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sokoloff 9y ago

About 2-3x. I'm a big fan of cloud computing in general (and AWS in particular as the clear leader, IMO) and helped lead our transition out of colos and into AWS, but the egress charges is the biggest area of AWS that I feel is egregiously over-priced. Fortunately, it's relatively easy to locate some of your very high egress services outside of AWS. I discourage that for casual optimization, but when you get to Netflix/20 scale, that makes sense to trifle with.

abalone 9y ago
Speaking of Netflix: “The best way to express it is that everything you see on Netflix up until the play button is on AWS, the actual video is delivered through our CDN,” Netflix spokesperson Joris Evers said.[1] [1] http://www.networkworld.com/article/3037428/cloud-computing/netflix-is-not-really-all-in-on-amazon-s-cloud.html http://www.networkworld.com/article/3037428/cloud-computing/...
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xadhominemx 9y ago

would a scale streaming customer really pay that much?