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As a Canadian I find it disturbing that foreign governments engage in these types of actions to affect the outcomes of elections but do find it a bit hypocritic

As a Canadian I find it disturbing that foreign governments engage in these types of actions to affect the outcomes of elections but do find it a bit hypocritical that the US is getting so upset about it, when IMHO the US three letter agencies have been involved in regime change and political tampering for decades. It kind of seems like yall got of taste of your own medicine.

x2398dh1 9y ago
Hey...that's not exactly true - we did not physically change the voting information in the machines - that would be totally unethical. We just had the right people killed, and allowed the right people who were doing the killing to grow extremely wealthy until they were no longer of use to us. Nicaragua, Chile, Panama, etc's elections were always left up to the citizens of those respective countries.
- nickpsecurity 9y ago
  This comment is propaganda specifically because it ignores all the propaganda that was necessary to pull those operations off. The TLA's had to convince a good chunk of people that the replacement leader was who they wanted so they wouldn't just re-replace the leader with more bullets. Propaganda was also the dominant technique for the recent election. Stays the best tool with it honed to near perfection by the likes of Fox.
  - wfo 9y ago
    I think the post you're replying to was tongue in cheek and not propaganda i.e. "we technically didn't change vote totals, we just assassinated democratically elected leaders and installed brutal puppet dictatorship regimes in their place [which is obviously far, far worse]".
    - nickpsecurity 9y ago
      As was mine. ;)
oculusthrift 9y ago
it's not hypocrisy. it's force. we did it because we could and the only thing egregious about this is that we allowed the russians to do it. Obama placed some sanctions and trjmp is lifting them but even that isn't enough. we have the force to do much more and should have if we wanted to teach the world a lesson.
akhilcacharya 9y ago
A taste of your own medicine? Would the North Koreans somehow attacking Seattle also be a taste of "your own medicine" for the Korean War or Hiroshima? Christ.
- sigmaprimus 9y ago
  Well that would be a bit more than a taste wouldn't it? And it's Mr. Christ to you!

x2398dh1 9y ago

Hey...that's not exactly true - we did not physically change the voting information in the machines - that would be totally unethical. We just had the right people killed, and allowed the right people who were doing the killing to grow extremely wealthy until they were no longer of use to us. Nicaragua, Chile, Panama, etc's elections were always left up to the citizens of those respective countries.

nickpsecurity 9y ago
This comment is propaganda specifically because it ignores all the propaganda that was necessary to pull those operations off. The TLA's had to convince a good chunk of people that the replacement leader was who they wanted so they wouldn't just re-replace the leader with more bullets. Propaganda was also the dominant technique for the recent election. Stays the best tool with it honed to near perfection by the likes of Fox.
- wfo 9y ago
  I think the post you're replying to was tongue in cheek and not propaganda i.e. "we technically didn't change vote totals, we just assassinated democratically elected leaders and installed brutal puppet dictatorship regimes in their place [which is obviously far, far worse]".
  - nickpsecurity 9y ago
    As was mine. ;)

oculusthrift 9y ago

it's not hypocrisy. it's force. we did it because we could and the only thing egregious about this is that we allowed the russians to do it. Obama placed some sanctions and trjmp is lifting them but even that isn't enough. we have the force to do much more and should have if we wanted to teach the world a lesson.

akhilcacharya 9y ago

A taste of your own medicine? Would the North Koreans somehow attacking Seattle also be a taste of "your own medicine" for the Korean War or Hiroshima? Christ.

sigmaprimus 9y ago
Well that would be a bit more than a taste wouldn't it? And it's Mr. Christ to you!