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Funny, I watched this and it reminded me of a leaked Microsoft executive looking at OS X "Tiger" and saying "it's like getting to use Longhorn two years early"

Funny, I watched this and it reminded me of a leaked Microsoft executive looking at OS X "Tiger" and saying "it's like getting to use Longhorn two years early" (which is to say, iOS 11 makes Surface look archaic, IMHO)

obstbraende 9y ago
do you have more info on that quote? I'd like to read more about that time, but google failed me
- Eric_WVGG 9y ago
  http://www.vanityfair.com/news/business/2012/08/microsoft-lost-mojo-steve-ballmer http://www.vanityfair.com/news/business/2012/08/microsoft-lo... Then, in June 2004, Steve Jobs announced that Apple was releasing its new operating system, called “Tiger.” And inside Microsoft, jaws dropped. Tiger did much of what was planned for Longhorn—except that it worked. E-mails flew around Microsoft, expressing dismay about the quality of Tiger. To executives’ disbelief, it contained functional equivalents of Avalon and WinFS. “It was fucking amazing,” wrote Lenn Pryor, part of the Longhorn team. “It is like I just got a free pass to Longhorn land today.” Vic Gundotra, another member of the group, tried out Tiger. “Their Avalon competitor (core video, core image) was hot,” he wrote. “I have the cool widgets (dashboard) running on my MAC right now with all the effects [Jobs] showed on stage. I’ve had no crashes in 5 hours.”
  - gumby 9y ago
    > Vic Gundotra, another member of the group, ...wrote “...I’ve had no crashes in 5 hours.” That's like a parody of what a Microsoft hater would say, yet it's an actual quote from Microsoft. Makes me feel sorry for them in retrospect.
    - intended 9y ago
      Somehow they managed to turn it around enough that there's discussions in this thread about a windows surface and an iPad Pro. Which is something in itself.
arcticfox 9y ago
Archaic? Matter of opinion, but I don't see anything at all that gives that impression. The only thing I came away with was an amusing question about how Apple is going to reconcile iOS with Mac OS someday, like Microsoft has already been working on / done for years
- dkonofalski 9y ago
  I might be in the minority here, but Microsoft hasn't "reconciled" a damn thing with the different versions of Windows. Instead of getting a great, consistent experience on multiple devices, they've gotten a half-baked, schizophrenic experience on them.
- eltoozero 9y ago
  Tablet "mode" does not make a seamless tablet experience. Case in point: I'm an IT guy meeting another vendor in the field mid-day. He pulls a dead surface from his bag and is now looking for an outlet, I pull my iPad, which hasn't been charged in a week, and it's at %20 but still good for the rest of the day. What good is a mobile computer with a dead battery?
  - rhodysurf 9y ago
    Your point makes no sense. If I didnt recharge my iPad it would be just as dead. Not to mention, the surface takes weeks to die while hibernating
- 2muchcoffeeman 9y ago
  I don't know why you need to reconcile them. Should MS reconcile the XBox with the PC? I think because the overlap between the usage of a tablet and a PC is so great, people think there should be some sort of convergence. So long as everything uses the same methods of communication, file formats, protocols etc everything will be ok. For most people, software is also solved. Everything is a web app. So what's really missing?
  - mynameisvlad 9y ago

obstbraende 9y ago

do you have more info on that quote? I'd like to read more about that time, but google failed me

Eric_WVGG 9y ago
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/business/2012/08/microsoft-lost-mojo-steve-ballmer http://www.vanityfair.com/news/business/2012/08/microsoft-lo... Then, in June 2004, Steve Jobs announced that Apple was releasing its new operating system, called “Tiger.” And inside Microsoft, jaws dropped. Tiger did much of what was planned for Longhorn—except that it worked. E-mails flew around Microsoft, expressing dismay about the quality of Tiger. To executives’ disbelief, it contained functional equivalents of Avalon and WinFS. “It was fucking amazing,” wrote Lenn Pryor, part of the Longhorn team. “It is like I just got a free pass to Longhorn land today.” Vic Gundotra, another member of the group, tried out Tiger. “Their Avalon competitor (core video, core image) was hot,” he wrote. “I have the cool widgets (dashboard) running on my MAC right now with all the effects [Jobs] showed on stage. I’ve had no crashes in 5 hours.”
- gumby 9y ago
  > Vic Gundotra, another member of the group, ...wrote “...I’ve had no crashes in 5 hours.” That's like a parody of what a Microsoft hater would say, yet it's an actual quote from Microsoft. Makes me feel sorry for them in retrospect.
  - intended 9y ago
    Somehow they managed to turn it around enough that there's discussions in this thread about a windows surface and an iPad Pro. Which is something in itself.

arcticfox 9y ago

Archaic? Matter of opinion, but I don't see anything at all that gives that impression. The only thing I came away with was an amusing question about how Apple is going to reconcile iOS with Mac OS someday, like Microsoft has already been working on / done for years

dkonofalski 9y ago
I might be in the minority here, but Microsoft hasn't "reconciled" a damn thing with the different versions of Windows. Instead of getting a great, consistent experience on multiple devices, they've gotten a half-baked, schizophrenic experience on them.
eltoozero 9y ago
Tablet "mode" does not make a seamless tablet experience. Case in point: I'm an IT guy meeting another vendor in the field mid-day. He pulls a dead surface from his bag and is now looking for an outlet, I pull my iPad, which hasn't been charged in a week, and it's at %20 but still good for the rest of the day. What good is a mobile computer with a dead battery?
- rhodysurf 9y ago
  Your point makes no sense. If I didnt recharge my iPad it would be just as dead. Not to mention, the surface takes weeks to die while hibernating
2muchcoffeeman 9y ago
I don't know why you need to reconcile them. Should MS reconcile the XBox with the PC? I think because the overlap between the usage of a tablet and a PC is so great, people think there should be some sort of convergence. So long as everything uses the same methods of communication, file formats, protocols etc everything will be ok. For most people, software is also solved. Everything is a web app. So what's really missing?
- mynameisvlad 9y ago