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So the best processor you can get on a macbook pro is an i5. Dell XPS comes with an i7. Same memory, same SSD, Mac has worse graphics card. Mac has soldered in

So the best processor you can get on a macbook pro is an i5. Dell XPS comes with an i7. Same memory, same SSD, Mac has worse graphics card. Mac has soldered in memory. And it 600 bucks more. https://www.amazon.com/Dell-XPS-15-15-6-Inch-i7-6700HQ/dp/B019PB6X78 https://www.amazon.com/Dell-XPS-15-15-6-Inch-i7-6700HQ/dp/B0... https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro

mikewhy 9y ago
On a 13-inch, sure. The 15 inch all have i7 processors. The screen resolution is much higher, they come with double the ram, not a "home OS" (whatever that is), and I'm not sure how an AMD 560m stacks up against an Nvidia 960m. Not to say the MacBook will be cheaper, just pointing out discrepancies in your comparison.
- p1esk 9y ago
  Here you go: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N1Q0M4O https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N1Q0M4O Dell is $1,000 cheaper than a comparable MBP.
  - dkonofalski 9y ago
    A plastic computer is not the same as one from machined aluminium. They may have similar specs, but they are not the same computer and the premium you pay falls directly into the spots where your specs fall apart.
    - p1esk 9y ago
      Got any data to support you opinion?
      - dkonofalski 9y ago
        Wut? Are you suggesting that it's just my opinion that machined aluminium is not the same as formed plastic?
        p1esk 9y ago
        No, I agree they are not the same. I thought you were implying machined aluminum is better.
        urbanj 9y ago
        Do you have any data to suggest machined aluminium isn't better?
        dkonofalski 9y ago
        The word "better" is too subjective to make any kind of meaningful assessment.
    - kartickv 9y ago
      But that still doesn't mean I'd pay $1000 more for aluminium. $100? Okay. $1000? No.
      - dkonofalski 9y ago
        That's fine, but if aluminium costs $1000 more and there are obvious benefits, then it's no longer the same computer for $1000 less. The quoted Dell is not $1000 cheaper for the same computer because it's objectively not the same computer.
  - jamespo 9y ago
    It's running windows though
  - dpatru 9y ago
    Here's a one-star review of it: https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3GEM7V96Z5EIH/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B01N1Q0M4O https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3GEM7V96Z5EIH/re...
    - finnnk 9y ago
      Well I have one of those and it was properly packaged, sounds like the reviewer bought one that dropped off the back of a van to me.
- amygdyl 9y ago
  I recall reading a familiar source I usually expect to be sensible (I've had memory problems since a head trauma a couple years back, which frustrate me constantly over seemingly unimportant context that's actually more disorientating than I like to admit) anyhow I received the impression that only the 13" models of the MBP with the new oled bar actually perform solidly for the headline spec and I can't recall any reason why now. Am I completely misinformed by my recollection or is the reality of a $2700 laptop that is the practical price of the performance one might expect just a garbage datum stuck in my mind? I'm not at all anti Apple, in fact particularly careful recently to seek a entry point into the ecosystem for a variety of reasons. This iPad announcement at least solves what my first Apple device in 27 years is going to be... Edit typo contract-context
urbanj 9y ago
The best processor you can get on a MacBook Pro is an i7, but anyway... My MacBook Air was purchased in 2011 and it's working very well today. Every Dell laptop I've owned has fallen apart in a couple of years. You're welcome to choose whatever you want, but do you need to be so outraged about Apple products?

mikewhy 9y ago

On a 13-inch, sure. The 15 inch all have i7 processors. The screen resolution is much higher, they come with double the ram, not a "home OS" (whatever that is), and I'm not sure how an AMD 560m stacks up against an Nvidia 960m. Not to say the MacBook will be cheaper, just pointing out discrepancies in your comparison.

p1esk 9y ago
Here you go: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N1Q0M4O https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N1Q0M4O Dell is $1,000 cheaper than a comparable MBP.
- dkonofalski 9y ago
  A plastic computer is not the same as one from machined aluminium. They may have similar specs, but they are not the same computer and the premium you pay falls directly into the spots where your specs fall apart.
  - p1esk 9y ago
    Got any data to support you opinion?
    - dkonofalski 9y ago
      Wut? Are you suggesting that it's just my opinion that machined aluminium is not the same as formed plastic?
      - p1esk 9y ago
        No, I agree they are not the same. I thought you were implying machined aluminum is better.
        urbanj 9y ago
        Do you have any data to suggest machined aluminium isn't better?
        dkonofalski 9y ago
        The word "better" is too subjective to make any kind of meaningful assessment.
  - kartickv 9y ago
    But that still doesn't mean I'd pay $1000 more for aluminium. $100? Okay. $1000? No.
    - dkonofalski 9y ago
      That's fine, but if aluminium costs $1000 more and there are obvious benefits, then it's no longer the same computer for $1000 less. The quoted Dell is not $1000 cheaper for the same computer because it's objectively not the same computer.
- jamespo 9y ago
  It's running windows though
- dpatru 9y ago
  Here's a one-star review of it: https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3GEM7V96Z5EIH/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B01N1Q0M4O https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3GEM7V96Z5EIH/re...
  - finnnk 9y ago
    Well I have one of those and it was properly packaged, sounds like the reviewer bought one that dropped off the back of a van to me.
amygdyl 9y ago
I recall reading a familiar source I usually expect to be sensible (I've had memory problems since a head trauma a couple years back, which frustrate me constantly over seemingly unimportant context that's actually more disorientating than I like to admit) anyhow I received the impression that only the 13" models of the MBP with the new oled bar actually perform solidly for the headline spec and I can't recall any reason why now. Am I completely misinformed by my recollection or is the reality of a $2700 laptop that is the practical price of the performance one might expect just a garbage datum stuck in my mind? I'm not at all anti Apple, in fact particularly careful recently to seek a entry point into the ecosystem for a variety of reasons. This iPad announcement at least solves what my first Apple device in 27 years is going to be... Edit typo contract-context

urbanj 9y ago

The best processor you can get on a MacBook Pro is an i7, but anyway... My MacBook Air was purchased in 2011 and it's working very well today. Every Dell laptop I've owned has fallen apart in a couple of years. You're welcome to choose whatever you want, but do you need to be so outraged about Apple products?