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They're the same chip, but one of them has ‎artificially deactivated features and is a different line, yes. Misread the line part as chip.

astrodust 9y ago
It's a different part and it has different features. Not having ECC memory support is a big deal for some people, so it's misleading to suggest they're basically the same. They bin things for a reason. If you're happy using a less expensive part with fewer features, great, you can save money. If you're making a top-tier "Pro" product you'll want to avoid cutting corners like that.
- floatboth 9y ago
  It's a different "part" in the stores, but it starts off as the same "chip" in the factory.
  - saurik 9y ago
    I don't understand your point. People are comparing prices. The process of binning chips is essentially "some of these are broken, but can be salvaged for other less taxing uses by running them slower or disabling features". You just can't compare the prices of the different lines. I just don't understand what you are trying or argue here or why :/.
  - astrodust 9y ago
    Levi's sells many different kinds of jeans made from the same material, buttons and zippers, yet they have different price points. The materials involved are only one factor.
- redtuesday 9y ago
  What is misleading about that? I merely stated that they are the same chip at the start, but Intel deactivates features on the extreme series to segregate the market (nothing wrong with that). Also see my edit of my original post where I mistakenly misread "line" as "chip" as stated. > They bin things for a reason. Yes, of course, so that the extreme series doesn't cut into the margins of the server market. If you could run RAID 5 and 10 without hardware dongles and ECC on the extreme series some smaller companies would probably prefer the i9 18 core for 2000$ to the 3000-4000$ 18 core Xeons. Again, this is fine, but Xeons and extreme series start of as the same chip. That's all I wanted to say on top of my correction of my original post.

astrodust 9y ago

It's a different part and it has different features. Not having ECC memory support is a big deal for some people, so it's misleading to suggest they're basically the same. They bin things for a reason. If you're happy using a less expensive part with fewer features, great, you can save money. If you're making a top-tier "Pro" product you'll want to avoid cutting corners like that.

floatboth 9y ago
It's a different "part" in the stores, but it starts off as the same "chip" in the factory.
- saurik 9y ago
  I don't understand your point. People are comparing prices. The process of binning chips is essentially "some of these are broken, but can be salvaged for other less taxing uses by running them slower or disabling features". You just can't compare the prices of the different lines. I just don't understand what you are trying or argue here or why :/.
- astrodust 9y ago
  Levi's sells many different kinds of jeans made from the same material, buttons and zippers, yet they have different price points. The materials involved are only one factor.
redtuesday 9y ago
What is misleading about that? I merely stated that they are the same chip at the start, but Intel deactivates features on the extreme series to segregate the market (nothing wrong with that). Also see my edit of my original post where I mistakenly misread "line" as "chip" as stated. > They bin things for a reason. Yes, of course, so that the extreme series doesn't cut into the margins of the server market. If you could run RAID 5 and 10 without hardware dongles and ECC on the extreme series some smaller companies would probably prefer the i9 18 core for 2000$ to the 3000-4000$ 18 core Xeons. Again, this is fine, but Xeons and extreme series start of as the same chip. That's all I wanted to say on top of my correction of my original post.