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No, they are not. All extreme edition CPU's from Intel are cut down Xeons with deactivated features (like ECC support), and the need to buy hardware dongles to

No, they are not. All extreme edition CPU's from Intel are cut down Xeons with deactivated features (like ECC support), and the need to buy hardware dongles to make RAID 5 and RAID 10 work. EDIT: read the children posts. I mistakenly read "chip" instead of "line". Of course Xeons are a different line compared to Intels extreme line. The above about the extreme series CPU's being cut down Xeons is still true but in this context wrong and irrelevant.

astrodust 9y ago
So they're the same apart from all the features they don't have. What a deeply insightful observation.
- redtuesday 9y ago
  They're the same chip, but one of them has ‎artificially deactivated features and is a different line, yes. Misread the line part as chip.
  - astrodust 9y ago
    It's a different part and it has different features. Not having ECC memory support is a big deal for some people, so it's misleading to suggest they're basically the same. They bin things for a reason. If you're happy using a less expensive part with fewer features, great, you can save money. If you're making a top-tier "Pro" product you'll want to avoid cutting corners like that.
    - floatboth 9y ago
      It's a different "part" in the stores, but it starts off as the same "chip" in the factory.
      - saurik 9y ago
        I don't understand your point. People are comparing prices. The process of binning chips is essentially "some of these are broken, but can be salvaged for other less taxing uses by running them slower or disabling features". You just can't compare the prices of the different lines. I just don't understand what you are trying or argue here or why :/.
      - astrodust 9y ago
        Levi's sells many different kinds of jeans made from the same material, buttons and zippers, yet they have different price points. The materials involved are only one factor.
    - redtuesday 9y ago
      What is misleading about that? I merely stated that they are the same chip at the start, but Intel deactivates features on the extreme series to segregate the market (nothing wrong with that). Also see my edit of my original post where I mistakenly misread "line" as "chip" as stated. > They bin things for a reason. Yes, of course, so that the extreme series doesn't cut into the margins of the server market. If you could run RAID 5 and 10 without hardware dongles and ECC on the extreme series some smaller companies would probably prefer the i9 18 core for 2000$ to the 3000-4000$ 18 core Xeons. Again, this is fine, but Xeons and extreme series start of as the same chip. That's all I wanted to say on top of my correction of my original post.

astrodust 9y ago

So they're the same apart from all the features they don't have. What a deeply insightful observation.

redtuesday 9y ago
They're the same chip, but one of them has ‎artificially deactivated features and is a different line, yes. Misread the line part as chip.
- astrodust 9y ago
  It's a different part and it has different features. Not having ECC memory support is a big deal for some people, so it's misleading to suggest they're basically the same. They bin things for a reason. If you're happy using a less expensive part with fewer features, great, you can save money. If you're making a top-tier "Pro" product you'll want to avoid cutting corners like that.
  - floatboth 9y ago
    It's a different "part" in the stores, but it starts off as the same "chip" in the factory.
    - saurik 9y ago
      I don't understand your point. People are comparing prices. The process of binning chips is essentially "some of these are broken, but can be salvaged for other less taxing uses by running them slower or disabling features". You just can't compare the prices of the different lines. I just don't understand what you are trying or argue here or why :/.
    - astrodust 9y ago
      Levi's sells many different kinds of jeans made from the same material, buttons and zippers, yet they have different price points. The materials involved are only one factor.
  - redtuesday 9y ago
    What is misleading about that? I merely stated that they are the same chip at the start, but Intel deactivates features on the extreme series to segregate the market (nothing wrong with that). Also see my edit of my original post where I mistakenly misread "line" as "chip" as stated. > They bin things for a reason. Yes, of course, so that the extreme series doesn't cut into the margins of the server market. If you could run RAID 5 and 10 without hardware dongles and ECC on the extreme series some smaller companies would probably prefer the i9 18 core for 2000$ to the 3000-4000$ 18 core Xeons. Again, this is fine, but Xeons and extreme series start of as the same chip. That's all I wanted to say on top of my correction of my original post.