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No, this is completely untrue. You can't just shove Windows into a touch based cloud world. You had to start over with something like iOS. Plus Apple is pre

No, this is completely untrue. You can't just shove Windows into a touch based cloud world. You had to start over with something like iOS. Plus Apple is pretty user friendly, something Windows never really got.

baq 9y ago
user friendliness is in the eye of the beholder nowadays, perhaps the adage was true a decade ago, but now it's more what you're used to.
exergy 9y ago
This all sounds more like an opinion that you're stating as fact. I own an SP3. It has it's problems: sucky trackpad, average battery life etc. But touchscreens are invaluable. They save me minor inconveniences so many times, that I will refuse to buy a laptop without it. Also, I really like Windows 8.1. Power users are perfectly capable of customizing the machine to get rid of Metro, and have shortcut keys etc., and once you do these things, there are simply more Windows software than Mac software in my line of work (mechanical engineering).
- voltagex_ 9y ago
  I often forget that my XPS 9350 has a touchscreen in it - do you have any tips for getting more use out of it in Windows 10?
  - exergy 9y ago
    Tbh, if you're getting by fine without it, why deliberately look to find uses for it. Generally speaking, I hate trackpads, especially for things like dismissing message boxes or scrolling. So those two are where I use the touch panel the most.
reitanqild 9y ago
Plus Apple is pretty user friendly... edit: lets add the rest of the quote here so it is obvious why this comment is harmful: ", something Windows never really got." for some users. For this user, who was enthusiastic to finally get a Mac it was tragic. I have used and liked Gnome and Mate in a number of configurations including Gnome 2 and 3. KDE 3 and 5. Elementary. Windows 3.1, 95, 98, xp, 7, 8.1 and 10. Mac OS X was a productivity nightmare to me for three years. I still belive that others like it and are more efficient with it but ... please stop talking like this is generally established facts.
- vultour 9y ago
  Were you trying to write a poem?
- dkarl 9y ago
  I have to say that however you deliver the message, it's true for a lot of people including myself: OS X is bad for my professional productivity. When I'm using several programs together (such as IDE, terminal, browser, emulator) I am never able to get into a flow as smooth and focused I could achieve with Windows, KDE, GNOME, and the various niche window managers I tried. OS X is just so standoffish. I've been using OS X as my primary desktop OS for six years now, and it still feels slightly stiff and awkward, like I'm using someone else's computer. It never feels truly tight and focused, no matter how much I fiddle with it. It's always just kind of good enough, which is extremely frustrating, because I feel like as a professional I should have a closer relationship with my tools.
  - sbmassey 9y ago
    Do you have specific criticisms? I'm pretty fine with OSX these days now that I can have two maximised windows next to each other on a screen, and four-finger switch left and right between screens
    - reitanqild 9y ago
      My specific criticism is not against the OS (AFAIK it is good even if I don’t like it[0]. ) My criticism is against mindless repetition of the idea that it is somehow always better or more userfriendly than other modern OSs. [0]: I swap a lot between programs. I swap using alt-tab. I frequently used to/will have some web-based tool running in in one browser window and the docs for the tool running in another browser window. I prefer keyboard. If I hit the mouse or trackpad I often feel I (or the OS) has failed to learn / adapt. From what I saw people who enjoy Mac OS X worked at a slower pace than me (although possibly more efficient). They had multiple overlapping windows. They enjoyed using the trackpad and didn't feel the pain of the hunt for the global menu bar.

baq 9y ago

user friendliness is in the eye of the beholder nowadays, perhaps the adage was true a decade ago, but now it's more what you're used to.

exergy 9y ago

This all sounds more like an opinion that you're stating as fact. I own an SP3. It has it's problems: sucky trackpad, average battery life etc. But touchscreens are invaluable. They save me minor inconveniences so many times, that I will refuse to buy a laptop without it. Also, I really like Windows 8.1. Power users are perfectly capable of customizing the machine to get rid of Metro, and have shortcut keys etc., and once you do these things, there are simply more Windows software than Mac software in my line of work (mechanical engineering).

voltagex_ 9y ago
I often forget that my XPS 9350 has a touchscreen in it - do you have any tips for getting more use out of it in Windows 10?
- exergy 9y ago
  Tbh, if you're getting by fine without it, why deliberately look to find uses for it. Generally speaking, I hate trackpads, especially for things like dismissing message boxes or scrolling. So those two are where I use the touch panel the most.

reitanqild 9y ago

Plus Apple is pretty user friendly... edit: lets add the rest of the quote here so it is obvious why this comment is harmful: ", something Windows never really got." for some users. For this user, who was enthusiastic to finally get a Mac it was tragic. I have used and liked Gnome and Mate in a number of configurations including Gnome 2 and 3. KDE 3 and 5. Elementary. Windows 3.1, 95, 98, xp, 7, 8.1 and 10. Mac OS X was a productivity nightmare to me for three years. I still belive that others like it and are more efficient with it but ... please stop talking like this is generally established facts.

vultour 9y ago
Were you trying to write a poem?
dkarl 9y ago
I have to say that however you deliver the message, it's true for a lot of people including myself: OS X is bad for my professional productivity. When I'm using several programs together (such as IDE, terminal, browser, emulator) I am never able to get into a flow as smooth and focused I could achieve with Windows, KDE, GNOME, and the various niche window managers I tried. OS X is just so standoffish. I've been using OS X as my primary desktop OS for six years now, and it still feels slightly stiff and awkward, like I'm using someone else's computer. It never feels truly tight and focused, no matter how much I fiddle with it. It's always just kind of good enough, which is extremely frustrating, because I feel like as a professional I should have a closer relationship with my tools.
- sbmassey 9y ago
  Do you have specific criticisms? I'm pretty fine with OSX these days now that I can have two maximised windows next to each other on a screen, and four-finger switch left and right between screens
  - reitanqild 9y ago
    My specific criticism is not against the OS (AFAIK it is good even if I don’t like it[0]. ) My criticism is against mindless repetition of the idea that it is somehow always better or more userfriendly than other modern OSs. [0]: I swap a lot between programs. I swap using alt-tab. I frequently used to/will have some web-based tool running in in one browser window and the docs for the tool running in another browser window. I prefer keyboard. If I hit the mouse or trackpad I often feel I (or the OS) has failed to learn / adapt. From what I saw people who enjoy Mac OS X worked at a slower pace than me (although possibly more efficient). They had multiple overlapping windows. They enjoyed using the trackpad and didn't feel the pain of the hunt for the global menu bar.