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They wouldn't need this rushed excuse for a 'Pro' machine if they hadn't totally taken their eyes off the MacPro for the last 3+ years! It's like they woke up

by jarym 9y ago

They wouldn't need this rushed excuse for a 'Pro' machine if they hadn't totally taken their eyes off the MacPro for the last 3+ years! It's like they woke up one day and realised 'oh crap people are pissed and when we asked them why we were surprised that we have upset customers because we haven't updated this MacPro thingy in a few years' and then Tim Cook must have decreed 'let's get SOMETHING out there to stop the masses turning out with pitchforks!' Really should never have come to this.

Eric_WVGG 9y ago
I can't tell if you're being snarky or serious, but 1) the thermal dissipation on a 12-core (or is it 18? I forget) Xeon and a GPU like that is nuts, to fit that into an iMac must have taken years, and 2) you know that Apple prefers all-in-ones and has been wanting to take the industry in this direction for years. I'd prefer a new version of the cheesegrater too but to suggest that they rushed this together is ludicrous. If anything, it's another reason why the Mac Pro got neglected for so long.
- jarym 9y ago
  Here's the rub: people who actually buy Xeon CPUs and high-end GPUs want those parts to be replaceable and upgradeable. It's why the G5 MacPro lasted as long as it did, and why the 2013 MacPro was comparatively a straightjacket! If Apple are targeting the same demographic then they're in for another public backlash. Sticking all this high-end gear into a sealed $5k device is baffling. Make no mistake, this iMac Pro will be another 'Pro' product that's put out into the market and forgotten about for a few years. It also did not take Apple 'years' to come up with this - while it probably existed as a concept for a while I am convinced they started focussing on it after the grumbling about lack of MacPro updates. Otherwise why wait until December to release it.
  - Eric_WVGG 9y ago
    Yes and no. I'm like you and I agree that this is not the computer for us. This is a computer for Pixar artists. This is for some architects I know that do very technically demanding renders but shouldn't be trusted swapping out their own gpus. One can be a "Pro" and be qualified to or care about internals, and money is no object. The problem isn't that computers like this exist, it's that our needs were misjudged. They acknowledged that a couple months ago, and the product is coming. Meanwhile it's dumb to deny that a market exists for Pro all-in-ones.

by jarym 9y ago

Eric_WVGG 9y ago

I can't tell if you're being snarky or serious, but 1) the thermal dissipation on a 12-core (or is it 18? I forget) Xeon and a GPU like that is nuts, to fit that into an iMac must have taken years, and 2) you know that Apple prefers all-in-ones and has been wanting to take the industry in this direction for years. I'd prefer a new version of the cheesegrater too but to suggest that they rushed this together is ludicrous. If anything, it's another reason why the Mac Pro got neglected for so long.

jarym 9y ago
Here's the rub: people who actually buy Xeon CPUs and high-end GPUs want those parts to be replaceable and upgradeable. It's why the G5 MacPro lasted as long as it did, and why the 2013 MacPro was comparatively a straightjacket! If Apple are targeting the same demographic then they're in for another public backlash. Sticking all this high-end gear into a sealed $5k device is baffling. Make no mistake, this iMac Pro will be another 'Pro' product that's put out into the market and forgotten about for a few years. It also did not take Apple 'years' to come up with this - while it probably existed as a concept for a while I am convinced they started focussing on it after the grumbling about lack of MacPro updates. Otherwise why wait until December to release it.
- Eric_WVGG 9y ago
  Yes and no. I'm like you and I agree that this is not the computer for us. This is a computer for Pixar artists. This is for some architects I know that do very technically demanding renders but shouldn't be trusted swapping out their own gpus. One can be a "Pro" and be qualified to or care about internals, and money is no object. The problem isn't that computers like this exist, it's that our needs were misjudged. They acknowledged that a couple months ago, and the product is coming. Meanwhile it's dumb to deny that a market exists for Pro all-in-ones.