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At some point I would have expected that one could develop iOS apps on the iPad Pro itself (without a computer). Not yet, apparently.

chx 9y ago
Never, ever. There is a vast interest in running sanctioned apps only on the iPad Pro.
LeifCarrotson 9y ago
That, to me, is one of the defining features of a general-purpose computer. Can I develop software for it, with it? Perhaps it might not be pleasant, if the hardware isn't very powerful - looking at 20 lines of code on a netbook screen, or waiting for the serial communication to catch up to my terminal on the embedded board - but it makes it a tool with which you can do real work. Tablets and phones don't count yet. Edit: Yes, I am aware of the SSH clients, with which you can connect to a remote server, do the development there, and download the resulting app. But the remote server is the general-like computer there, just as the PC running the terminal is not the primary machine in some embedded development.
- scrumper 9y ago
  Pythonista comes pretty close without being "Xcode for iPad". You can develop apps using it, which can have icons on the home screen.
- EddieRingle 9y ago
  > Tablets and phones don't count yet. You've been able to develop on Android for years now. See AIDE (http://www.android-ide.com/ http://www.android-ide.com/) and Termux (https://termux.com/ https://termux.com/), for example.
thegayngler 9y ago
This is the #1 thing I was hoping for.
leggomylibro 9y ago
Seriously. The only thing keeping me from trying out an ipad is the inability to install my own software on it. Until then, 10-11" chromebooks are scratching that itch for me. They usually have 360-degree flip keyboards with touch screens, and they'll run a full ARM Linux stack with dev mode on. Plus, the UI and Android app support are great.
kalleboo 9y ago
Apple just opened up the App Store rules for developer tools "intended for use in learning how to program", so it's getting closer https://twitter.com/palmin/status/871980560943636480 https://twitter.com/palmin/status/871980560943636480

chx 9y ago

Never, ever. There is a vast interest in running sanctioned apps only on the iPad Pro.

LeifCarrotson 9y ago

That, to me, is one of the defining features of a general-purpose computer. Can I develop software for it, with it? Perhaps it might not be pleasant, if the hardware isn't very powerful - looking at 20 lines of code on a netbook screen, or waiting for the serial communication to catch up to my terminal on the embedded board - but it makes it a tool with which you can do real work. Tablets and phones don't count yet. Edit: Yes, I am aware of the SSH clients, with which you can connect to a remote server, do the development there, and download the resulting app. But the remote server is the general-like computer there, just as the PC running the terminal is not the primary machine in some embedded development.

scrumper 9y ago
Pythonista comes pretty close without being "Xcode for iPad". You can develop apps using it, which can have icons on the home screen.
EddieRingle 9y ago
> Tablets and phones don't count yet. You've been able to develop on Android for years now. See AIDE (http://www.android-ide.com/ http://www.android-ide.com/) and Termux (https://termux.com/ https://termux.com/), for example.

thegayngler 9y ago

This is the #1 thing I was hoping for.

leggomylibro 9y ago

Seriously. The only thing keeping me from trying out an ipad is the inability to install my own software on it. Until then, 10-11" chromebooks are scratching that itch for me. They usually have 360-degree flip keyboards with touch screens, and they'll run a full ARM Linux stack with dev mode on. Plus, the UI and Android app support are great.

kalleboo 9y ago

Apple just opened up the App Store rules for developer tools "intended for use in learning how to program", so it's getting closer https://twitter.com/palmin/status/871980560943636480 https://twitter.com/palmin/status/871980560943636480