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Sounds great. I think most of the Safari updates are as well in it's webkit js engine. Although I'm really still confused why does Apple bounds their Safari b

Sounds great. I think most of the Safari updates are as well in it's webkit js engine. Although I'm really still confused why does Apple bounds their Safari browser with it's OS updates. I will be very, very happy if I can receive up-to-date battery-savvy browser, without having to wait for a full-blown conference.

weabot 9y ago
Apple are a bit old-school about releases, they seem to bundle all major updates together and only give security and minor updates to their previous releases, and they follow that for all of the software they provide. This is how it has historically been for 90's and early 00's unix-like operating systems like *BSD and Solaris. A lot of things come bundled with the base so everything in the operating system's base release is updated with a new release of the kernel that comes bundled with it.
- city41 9y ago
  It's in Apple's interest to get everyone onto the latest macOS, so packaging app updates into the OS update helps accomplish that.
  - rtpg 9y ago
    The counterpoint is that doing these releases means having to roll out 100 changes at once instead of trickling them out continuously The reason people hate upgrading is half "losing features", half "everything breaks". Imagine if they rolled out changes continuously?
    - netheril96 9y ago
      Yeah, Win 10 and Arch Linux are poster children for "everything just works".
      - rtpg 9y ago
        well... Chrome updates all the time (version 50 now, can you believe it?) I haven't used Win 10, but even Win 8 was pretty good for me (crashed less than Sierra + the new MBP).
    - kartickv 9y ago
      I don't want even more updates to apply. It's a nuisance. And most of the time they don't make things better for me in any appreciable way.
    - cat199 9y ago
      ... but you also get people like us fawning to find out 'whats next' and the associated big press hype that accompanies such an event..
Eric_WVGG 9y ago
They inconsistently support older OS's. The current Safari 10 runs on the previous release, "El Capitan".
zwily 9y ago
Safari 11 will be available on Sierra as well.

weabot 9y ago

Apple are a bit old-school about releases, they seem to bundle all major updates together and only give security and minor updates to their previous releases, and they follow that for all of the software they provide. This is how it has historically been for 90's and early 00's unix-like operating systems like *BSD and Solaris. A lot of things come bundled with the base so everything in the operating system's base release is updated with a new release of the kernel that comes bundled with it.

city41 9y ago
It's in Apple's interest to get everyone onto the latest macOS, so packaging app updates into the OS update helps accomplish that.
- rtpg 9y ago
  The counterpoint is that doing these releases means having to roll out 100 changes at once instead of trickling them out continuously The reason people hate upgrading is half "losing features", half "everything breaks". Imagine if they rolled out changes continuously?
  - netheril96 9y ago
    Yeah, Win 10 and Arch Linux are poster children for "everything just works".
    - rtpg 9y ago
      well... Chrome updates all the time (version 50 now, can you believe it?) I haven't used Win 10, but even Win 8 was pretty good for me (crashed less than Sierra + the new MBP).
  - kartickv 9y ago
    I don't want even more updates to apply. It's a nuisance. And most of the time they don't make things better for me in any appreciable way.
  - cat199 9y ago
    ... but you also get people like us fawning to find out 'whats next' and the associated big press hype that accompanies such an event..

Eric_WVGG 9y ago

They inconsistently support older OS's. The current Safari 10 runs on the previous release, "El Capitan".

zwily 9y ago

Safari 11 will be available on Sierra as well.