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> Video has never been DRM free is what you said, which is far from the same comment as "the content distributors never distributed the video DRM free." If you

> Video has never been DRM free is what you said, which is far from the same comment as "the content distributors never distributed the video DRM free." If you meant something else, you might want to adjust that. If something is incompatible, that is one issue, but if something is intentionally blocked from being compatible, that has moved to being an ethical problem. Those are two completely different scenarios. If someone could modify their xbox to run ps4 games, I see no problem with that, and would take issue with someone actively trying to prevent them from doing that.

scarface74 9y ago
So you missed the part of the post where I said "Video right holders have never allowed their content to be delivered without copy protections."? Netflix was completely incompatible with PC operating systems that didn't run Silverlight. Netflix is nowe incompatible with operating systems that don't support the required DRM -- which is now a greater subset of operating systems.
- CaptSpify 9y ago
  > So you missed the part of the post where I said "Video right holders have never allowed their content to be delivered without copy protections."? No, but I kind of ignored it as that argument is irrelevant. What they've always done has no bearing on the situation. It was illogical then, and it's illogical now. Nothing has changed. Yeah, they are compatible with more systems, but at the cost of screwing up the standard. Just because it's no longer tied to Silverlight is irrelevant. None of that refutes any of my arguments. They could just throw their weight around release the videos DRM free and be done with it, but they choose not to.
  - scarface74 9y ago
    No, but I kind of ignored it as that argument is irrelevant. What they've always done has no bearing on the situation So I might want to adjust my comment even though you admittedly ignored what I said and the context I said it in? Saying it's illogical to put DRM on content because it can be broken is just as illogical as saying it is illogical to lock your car door because a thief can break the window. What "weight" does Netflix have against the entire movie and music industry?
    - CaptSpify 9y ago
      Your misquote of what I said finally got me to realize how strongly you've been trolling. Good game.
- josteink 9y ago
  > Netflix was completely incompatible with PC operating systems that didn't run Silverlight. Netflix is nowe incompatible with operating systems that don't support the required DRM Meanwhile HTML has moved from being a completely open specification implementable by anyone and everyone who wanted to, to being closed. Now it's reduced to being available only on that tiny subset you mentioned. Only companies and platforms blessed by Hollywood can implement a fully compliant HTML engine. The open web enabled alternate OSes like Linux, Mac, iOS and Android. This change effectively means there won't be any new alternate OSes in future. The innovation ends here. That's a huge fucking loss. And Netflix is not worth that loss. They can make an app like everyone fucking else. Like they already do for all platforms not PC. I fail to see what the big problem is.
  - scarface74 9y ago
    HTML may have been an open standard, but if Netflix did decide to use a DRM format, what format would they use more than likely? h.264. A video format that can't be used in an open source browser because of patent issues.

scarface74 9y ago

So you missed the part of the post where I said "Video right holders have never allowed their content to be delivered without copy protections."? Netflix was completely incompatible with PC operating systems that didn't run Silverlight. Netflix is nowe incompatible with operating systems that don't support the required DRM -- which is now a greater subset of operating systems.

CaptSpify 9y ago
> So you missed the part of the post where I said "Video right holders have never allowed their content to be delivered without copy protections."? No, but I kind of ignored it as that argument is irrelevant. What they've always done has no bearing on the situation. It was illogical then, and it's illogical now. Nothing has changed. Yeah, they are compatible with more systems, but at the cost of screwing up the standard. Just because it's no longer tied to Silverlight is irrelevant. None of that refutes any of my arguments. They could just throw their weight around release the videos DRM free and be done with it, but they choose not to.
- scarface74 9y ago
  No, but I kind of ignored it as that argument is irrelevant. What they've always done has no bearing on the situation So I might want to adjust my comment even though you admittedly ignored what I said and the context I said it in? Saying it's illogical to put DRM on content because it can be broken is just as illogical as saying it is illogical to lock your car door because a thief can break the window. What "weight" does Netflix have against the entire movie and music industry?
  - CaptSpify 9y ago
    Your misquote of what I said finally got me to realize how strongly you've been trolling. Good game.
josteink 9y ago
> Netflix was completely incompatible with PC operating systems that didn't run Silverlight. Netflix is nowe incompatible with operating systems that don't support the required DRM Meanwhile HTML has moved from being a completely open specification implementable by anyone and everyone who wanted to, to being closed. Now it's reduced to being available only on that tiny subset you mentioned. Only companies and platforms blessed by Hollywood can implement a fully compliant HTML engine. The open web enabled alternate OSes like Linux, Mac, iOS and Android. This change effectively means there won't be any new alternate OSes in future. The innovation ends here. That's a huge fucking loss. And Netflix is not worth that loss. They can make an app like everyone fucking else. Like they already do for all platforms not PC. I fail to see what the big problem is.
- scarface74 9y ago
  HTML may have been an open standard, but if Netflix did decide to use a DRM format, what format would they use more than likely? h.264. A video format that can't be used in an open source browser because of patent issues.