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Google has their own TLD? Not sure how I feel about that. Then again, we do have a myriad of others.

by weka 9y ago

burger_moon 9y ago
Don't they own a few? .XYZ is another which Google uses for https://abc.xyz https://abc.xyz
- ipsum2 9y ago
  Google doesn't own xyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.xyz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.xyz
  - tgb 9y ago
    How bizarre that the terms of use for .xyz specifically bans illegal or fraudulent defamation of Justin Bieber and Oprah Winfrey. Presumably this only covers things that were already covered by the law for everyone else, but it is still kind of baffling. I assume the two of them were involved financially with the .xyz TLD?
    - CydeWeys 9y ago
      I think it's reactive, i.e. in response to some prior incident, not implying an ownership stake. Do you really think Justin Bieber is involved financially with the domain name registry business? I doubt it.
      - farnsworth 9y ago
        I don't see why not, many celebrities/rich people have broad investments, especially in tech.
      - tgb 9y ago
        That does sound more likely.
      - nebabyte 9y ago
        "I jus' wan' a globally unique identifier to call you by, girl"
    - strictnein 9y ago
      Almost certainly in response to affiliate marketers faking their endorsements of products.
devrand 9y ago
Almost every large company applied for gTLDs for their trademarks. There's some surprises: * .nike * .staples * .marshalls * .pamperedchef * .tiffany * .firestone Though I have a feeling many of these are only going to be used for internal networks.
- CydeWeys 9y ago
  My favorite from the first round of expansion is https://icannwiki.org/.afamilycompany https://icannwiki.org/.afamilycompany
- forgot-my-pw 9y ago
  Starting cost is close to $200,000. Seems like ICANN gets a lot of money these days...
- ilanco 9y ago
  > Though I have a feeling many of these are only going to be used for internal networks. Why would an internal network need a publicly resolvable domain?
  - extrapickles 9y ago
    Its good practice to own the domain you use internally so that someone else cant register it, then proceed to do evil.
tyingq 9y ago
Quite a few companies have vanity TLDs. Everything from "aarp" to "zappos". See the list here: http://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt http://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt
CydeWeys 9y ago
I'm the lead engineer of the Google Registry, which runs .google as well as the other dozens of TLDs that we run. Feel free to ask any questions. Our site is https://www.registry.google/ https://www.registry.google/ and our code is released as Free/Open Source Software at https://nomulus.foo https://nomulus.foo (another one of our TLDs).
- kuschku 9y ago
  So, why? Companies shouldn't have ownership of TLDs, so why did you register so many TLDs that have nothing to do with Google, and which you don't allow to be used freely? Profits? This is disgusting. The fact that corporations can control TLDs in the first place is disgusting, and I'd by far prefer if every TLD would have to be controlled by cooperatives (like denic) or other kinds of nonprofits, completely independent of everything else. Especially in the current situation, where Google is cybersquatting on entire TLDs, just because they can. And while domains are frequently removed for squatting, nothing’s done with TLDs. Open the TLD for everyone, and use it, or get rid of it. But the current situation is disgusting. (I fundamentally disagree with companies controlling any kind of infrastructure)
  - an_account 9y ago
    Honest question: why make the distinction between top level domains and secondary level domains?
    - tux3 9y ago
      Anyone can register a second level domain under .com or the other main TLDs. This used to be the few main namespaces shared by everyone, at reasonable prices, and it went just fine. ICANN made a de-facto distinction with the obscene pricing for top-level domains. There's a new global namespace, but you can't afford to get into that one if you're not a big fish. That seems to be what the landscape looks like nowadays.
  - hn_throwaway_99 9y ago
    You are about 5 years too late in your criticism. This whole debate was had when ICANN expanded top-level domains in 2012: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_top-level_domain#Expansion_of_gTLDs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_top-level_domain#Expan...
ajmurmann 9y ago
.Google is a easy one. I remember hearing rumors about .amazon leading to more controversy because there also happens to be the river and the region.
- CydeWeys 9y ago
  It's not just a rumor; ICANN did refuse to grant .amazon to Amazon because of objections from various South American countries (through which the actual Amazon River and region run). More info here: https://icannwiki.org/.amazon https://icannwiki.org/.amazon

Google has their own TLD? Not sure how I feel about that. Then again, we do have a myriad of others.

by weka 9y ago

Google has their own TLD? Not sure how I feel about that. Then again, we do have a myriad of others.

burger_moon 9y ago

Don't they own a few? .XYZ is another which Google uses for https://abc.xyz https://abc.xyz

ipsum2 9y ago
Google doesn't own xyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.xyz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.xyz
- tgb 9y ago
  How bizarre that the terms of use for .xyz specifically bans illegal or fraudulent defamation of Justin Bieber and Oprah Winfrey. Presumably this only covers things that were already covered by the law for everyone else, but it is still kind of baffling. I assume the two of them were involved financially with the .xyz TLD?
  - CydeWeys 9y ago
    I think it's reactive, i.e. in response to some prior incident, not implying an ownership stake. Do you really think Justin Bieber is involved financially with the domain name registry business? I doubt it.
    - farnsworth 9y ago
      I don't see why not, many celebrities/rich people have broad investments, especially in tech.
    - tgb 9y ago
      That does sound more likely.
    - nebabyte 9y ago
      "I jus' wan' a globally unique identifier to call you by, girl"
  - strictnein 9y ago
    Almost certainly in response to affiliate marketers faking their endorsements of products.

devrand 9y ago

Almost every large company applied for gTLDs for their trademarks. There's some surprises: * .nike * .staples * .marshalls * .pamperedchef * .tiffany * .firestone Though I have a feeling many of these are only going to be used for internal networks.

CydeWeys 9y ago
My favorite from the first round of expansion is https://icannwiki.org/.afamilycompany https://icannwiki.org/.afamilycompany
forgot-my-pw 9y ago
Starting cost is close to $200,000. Seems like ICANN gets a lot of money these days...
ilanco 9y ago
> Though I have a feeling many of these are only going to be used for internal networks. Why would an internal network need a publicly resolvable domain?
- extrapickles 9y ago
  Its good practice to own the domain you use internally so that someone else cant register it, then proceed to do evil.

tyingq 9y ago

Quite a few companies have vanity TLDs. Everything from "aarp" to "zappos". See the list here: http://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt http://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt

CydeWeys 9y ago

I'm the lead engineer of the Google Registry, which runs .google as well as the other dozens of TLDs that we run. Feel free to ask any questions. Our site is https://www.registry.google/ https://www.registry.google/ and our code is released as Free/Open Source Software at https://nomulus.foo https://nomulus.foo (another one of our TLDs).

kuschku 9y ago
So, why? Companies shouldn't have ownership of TLDs, so why did you register so many TLDs that have nothing to do with Google, and which you don't allow to be used freely? Profits? This is disgusting. The fact that corporations can control TLDs in the first place is disgusting, and I'd by far prefer if every TLD would have to be controlled by cooperatives (like denic) or other kinds of nonprofits, completely independent of everything else. Especially in the current situation, where Google is cybersquatting on entire TLDs, just because they can. And while domains are frequently removed for squatting, nothing’s done with TLDs. Open the TLD for everyone, and use it, or get rid of it. But the current situation is disgusting. (I fundamentally disagree with companies controlling any kind of infrastructure)
- an_account 9y ago
  Honest question: why make the distinction between top level domains and secondary level domains?
  - tux3 9y ago
    Anyone can register a second level domain under .com or the other main TLDs. This used to be the few main namespaces shared by everyone, at reasonable prices, and it went just fine. ICANN made a de-facto distinction with the obscene pricing for top-level domains. There's a new global namespace, but you can't afford to get into that one if you're not a big fish. That seems to be what the landscape looks like nowadays.
- hn_throwaway_99 9y ago
  You are about 5 years too late in your criticism. This whole debate was had when ICANN expanded top-level domains in 2012: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_top-level_domain#Expansion_of_gTLDs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_top-level_domain#Expan...

ajmurmann 9y ago

.Google is a easy one. I remember hearing rumors about .amazon leading to more controversy because there also happens to be the river and the region.

CydeWeys 9y ago
It's not just a rumor; ICANN did refuse to grant .amazon to Amazon because of objections from various South American countries (through which the actual Amazon River and region run). More info here: https://icannwiki.org/.amazon https://icannwiki.org/.amazon