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Not sure I agree on the cell phones at all. I have plenty of relatives who are very satisfied with their Moto Gs and for whom the alternative would have been an

Not sure I agree on the cell phones at all. I have plenty of relatives who are very satisfied with their Moto Gs and for whom the alternative would have been an iPhone at 3x the price. If you want equivalent specs then sure, the prices are going to be similar but that's the whole point, with Android (and a PC) you've got a wide range of _choices_ on many parts of the specifications/price spectrum. With Apple you've got far fewer. The same goes for laptops where you listed three different manufacturers.

freehunter 9y ago
So what you're saying is comparable hardware costs the same no matter if its Android or Apple, the difference is Apple doesn't make low-end devices. That is literally exactly what I said. If a Galaxy S8 and an iPhone with the same hardware costs the same price, there is no such thing as "the apple tax". None. Can't happen. They cost the same. The only difference is that Apple doesn't make anything cheaper, but google "best laptops 2017" and guess what? They all cost the same as a Macbook. So as it turns out, Apple's prices are comparable with their direct competitors. Ergo, the Apple tax doesn't exist.
- byefruit 9y ago
  Exactly as you've said, Apple's prices are comparable with their direct competitors for similar specifications but they just don't provide a low end. If your needs are met by the low end, you're forced to pay a premium.
  - freehunter 9y ago
    I originally said "It's almost like "the apple tax" doesn't exist and people are just mad that Apple doesn't make cheap low quality products" You replied "Not sure I agree on the cell phones at all." Your justification for that was "Apple's prices are comparable with their direct competitors for similar specifications but they just don't provide a low end." It is a complete non-sequitur to say they're charging you a premium to buy a high-end device if you want a low-end one. They charge exactly the same for exactly the same. Not a tax. Fact: Apple's prices are competitive with comparable devices. Fact: Apple only competes in the high end market. Not fact: Apple forces you to buy their products even if you can't afford it.
- threeseed 9y ago
  Apple sells the Mac Mini, MacBook and iPhone SE which are fairly low end.

freehunter 9y ago

So what you're saying is comparable hardware costs the same no matter if its Android or Apple, the difference is Apple doesn't make low-end devices. That is literally exactly what I said. If a Galaxy S8 and an iPhone with the same hardware costs the same price, there is no such thing as "the apple tax". None. Can't happen. They cost the same. The only difference is that Apple doesn't make anything cheaper, but google "best laptops 2017" and guess what? They all cost the same as a Macbook. So as it turns out, Apple's prices are comparable with their direct competitors. Ergo, the Apple tax doesn't exist.

byefruit 9y ago
Exactly as you've said, Apple's prices are comparable with their direct competitors for similar specifications but they just don't provide a low end. If your needs are met by the low end, you're forced to pay a premium.
- freehunter 9y ago
  I originally said "It's almost like "the apple tax" doesn't exist and people are just mad that Apple doesn't make cheap low quality products" You replied "Not sure I agree on the cell phones at all." Your justification for that was "Apple's prices are comparable with their direct competitors for similar specifications but they just don't provide a low end." It is a complete non-sequitur to say they're charging you a premium to buy a high-end device if you want a low-end one. They charge exactly the same for exactly the same. Not a tax. Fact: Apple's prices are competitive with comparable devices. Fact: Apple only competes in the high end market. Not fact: Apple forces you to buy their products even if you can't afford it.
threeseed 9y ago
Apple sells the Mac Mini, MacBook and iPhone SE which are fairly low end.