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There are two main arguments: - You can't disable telemetry completey. Some people want it, some don't. Let the user decide. - Microsoft does collect an insan

There are two main arguments: - You can't disable telemetry completey. Some people want it, some don't. Let the user decide. - Microsoft does collect an insane amount of data. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/basic-level-windows-diagnostic-events-and-fields https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/basic...

rileymat2 9y ago
> You can't disable telemetry completey. Some people want it, some don't. Let the user decide. I would be curious how many users want telemetry sent to Microsoft. It seems the two largest buckets, by far, would be those who don't care and those who don't want it.
- basch 9y ago
  I want your (all yalls) telemetry data sent to Microsoft, so my Windows crashes less. As an aggregate, the worlds telemetry data has an extremely positive impact on me. The problem with opt in is that most people, where most crashes occur, would never read what the prompt says asking them to send the data, they would just press the x in the corner because a dialog box popped up they didnt ask for. "What did that box say. I dont know. Why did you close it. Because I didnt want it."
  - AlexandrB 9y ago
    > The problem with opt in is that most people, where most crashes occur, would never read what the prompt says asking them to send the data, they would just press the x in the corner because a dialog box popped up they didnt ask for. "What did that box say. I dont know. Why did you close it. Because I didnt want it." You're describing a UX issue with the worst possible way this could be implemented. What chafes me is not that I'm not asked for permission for every crash report, but that I don't have the option to disable crash reports at all.
  - type0 9y ago
    So would pressing the x mean that the user agreed to this? If it's unclear, I'm drawing that conclusion from all those Windows 10 upgrades where that were the case.
    - basch 9y ago
      maybe if the buttons said "Contribute Nothing" and "Do the Right Thing"
  - alxmdev 9y ago
    > "What did that box say. I dont know. Why did you close it. Because I didnt want it." That's right, because all these unsolicited prompts and notifications are a waste of people's valuable time. A well-designed OS should aggressively keep quiet, stay out of the way, and err on the side of user privacy. Your Windows crashing is an issue strictly between you, Microsoft, and the makers of whatever software and hardware you were using when the crash occurred. Absolutely nothing to do with anybody else.
  - khedoros1 9y ago
    > I want your (all yalls) telemetry data sent to Microsoft, so my Windows crashes less. I want your data sent to Microsoft too, for the same reason. I don't want my data sent to Microsoft, though.

rileymat2 9y ago

> You can't disable telemetry completey. Some people want it, some don't. Let the user decide. I would be curious how many users want telemetry sent to Microsoft. It seems the two largest buckets, by far, would be those who don't care and those who don't want it.

basch 9y ago
I want your (all yalls) telemetry data sent to Microsoft, so my Windows crashes less. As an aggregate, the worlds telemetry data has an extremely positive impact on me. The problem with opt in is that most people, where most crashes occur, would never read what the prompt says asking them to send the data, they would just press the x in the corner because a dialog box popped up they didnt ask for. "What did that box say. I dont know. Why did you close it. Because I didnt want it."
- AlexandrB 9y ago
  > The problem with opt in is that most people, where most crashes occur, would never read what the prompt says asking them to send the data, they would just press the x in the corner because a dialog box popped up they didnt ask for. "What did that box say. I dont know. Why did you close it. Because I didnt want it." You're describing a UX issue with the worst possible way this could be implemented. What chafes me is not that I'm not asked for permission for every crash report, but that I don't have the option to disable crash reports at all.
- type0 9y ago
  So would pressing the x mean that the user agreed to this? If it's unclear, I'm drawing that conclusion from all those Windows 10 upgrades where that were the case.
  - basch 9y ago
    maybe if the buttons said "Contribute Nothing" and "Do the Right Thing"
- alxmdev 9y ago
  > "What did that box say. I dont know. Why did you close it. Because I didnt want it." That's right, because all these unsolicited prompts and notifications are a waste of people's valuable time. A well-designed OS should aggressively keep quiet, stay out of the way, and err on the side of user privacy. Your Windows crashing is an issue strictly between you, Microsoft, and the makers of whatever software and hardware you were using when the crash occurred. Absolutely nothing to do with anybody else.
- khedoros1 9y ago
  > I want your (all yalls) telemetry data sent to Microsoft, so my Windows crashes less. I want your data sent to Microsoft too, for the same reason. I don't want my data sent to Microsoft, though.