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Because it implies that Trump and Russia are somehow parts of the same evil rightwing-shilling machine. That meme is getting ridiculous.

by drops 9y ago

chasing 9y ago
Given that it's under active investigation, "meme" might be wrong word.
- coldtea 9y ago
  Like WMDs were under active investigation, with agencies checking on them, the NYT, CNN and other "serious" outlets informing the public about them, and even a whole war (and tons of lives lost, not to mention a trillion dollars spent) was justified on their presence? Yeah, "BS excuse of large part of the establishment for their own incompetence and disconnect" would be a better moniker.
- akerro 9y ago
  Which investigation?
- cubano 9y ago
  Oh you mean the investigation that hasn't found one shred of real evidence after spending untold millions basically as a Trump witch-hunt?
- omgduh 9y ago
  there sure are a lot of very vocal people who seem to wish it was a meme.... hmmm....
gadders 9y ago
Yeah, I've flagged the story.
coldtea 9y ago
It was ridiculous to begin with. How about accepting that a good 20% of the population are religious republican nuts, and a good 20%+ were not particularly feeling like voting for the established candidates once more (because of lost jobs, prospects, the feeling of a country changing in ways the don't like, etc), but rather vote Trump and see the world burn? And that they were distributed in a winning way, even if some "full democratic" states had a few million more Clinton supporters? Whether Russians leaked the emails (which is quite unlikely), that is inconsequential as far as the vote is concerned. The momentum was there from a year before, and Trump had marched on and on already (not to mention few even heard or cared about those). Now, if Trump's circle tried to make some bucks with Russian deals (like e.g. Bush Jr. made with Saudi deals and connections before and after the elections), that's something else. The most hopeful thing from a Trump presidency (since obviously in internal affairs he would be a republican wrecking ball) was whether he would stop the warmongering and interventionism that's been a constant for decades. And of course, established Democrats and Republicans only push him towards not doing that, to keep the military machine going, and even applaud him whenever he puts his marching boots on.
rjsw 9y ago
There doesn't have to be an organized conspiracy between them for there to be a problem. There is a suggestion that both have used similar tactics to gain power [1] and that this is the kind of thing showing up in the Google results. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperNormalisation#A_World_Without_Power https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperNormalisation#A_World_Wit...

Because it implies that Trump and Russia are somehow parts of the same evil rightwing-shilling machine. That meme is getting ridiculous.

by drops 9y ago

Because it implies that Trump and Russia are somehow parts of the same evil rightwing-shilling machine. That meme is getting ridiculous.

chasing 9y ago

Given that it's under active investigation, "meme" might be wrong word.

coldtea 9y ago
Like WMDs were under active investigation, with agencies checking on them, the NYT, CNN and other "serious" outlets informing the public about them, and even a whole war (and tons of lives lost, not to mention a trillion dollars spent) was justified on their presence? Yeah, "BS excuse of large part of the establishment for their own incompetence and disconnect" would be a better moniker.
akerro 9y ago
Which investigation?
cubano 9y ago
Oh you mean the investigation that hasn't found one shred of real evidence after spending untold millions basically as a Trump witch-hunt?
omgduh 9y ago
there sure are a lot of very vocal people who seem to wish it was a meme.... hmmm....

gadders 9y ago

Yeah, I've flagged the story.

coldtea 9y ago

It was ridiculous to begin with. How about accepting that a good 20% of the population are religious republican nuts, and a good 20%+ were not particularly feeling like voting for the established candidates once more (because of lost jobs, prospects, the feeling of a country changing in ways the don't like, etc), but rather vote Trump and see the world burn? And that they were distributed in a winning way, even if some "full democratic" states had a few million more Clinton supporters? Whether Russians leaked the emails (which is quite unlikely), that is inconsequential as far as the vote is concerned. The momentum was there from a year before, and Trump had marched on and on already (not to mention few even heard or cared about those). Now, if Trump's circle tried to make some bucks with Russian deals (like e.g. Bush Jr. made with Saudi deals and connections before and after the elections), that's something else. The most hopeful thing from a Trump presidency (since obviously in internal affairs he would be a republican wrecking ball) was whether he would stop the warmongering and interventionism that's been a constant for decades. And of course, established Democrats and Republicans only push him towards not doing that, to keep the military machine going, and even applaud him whenever he puts his marching boots on.

rjsw 9y ago

There doesn't have to be an organized conspiracy between them for there to be a problem. There is a suggestion that both have used similar tactics to gain power [1] and that this is the kind of thing showing up in the Google results. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperNormalisation#A_World_Without_Power https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperNormalisation#A_World_Wit...