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> The Chinese are still bent on dominance and interested in various conquests. What evidence do you have for that, as opposed to this alternative hypothesis:
by thisrod 9y ago
> The Chinese are still bent on dominance and interested in various conquests.
What evidence do you have for that, as opposed to this alternative hypothesis:
1. The Chinese have a bit of a thing about uninvited guests. C.f. world history from the industrial revolution until 1975, or go back a bit further to that Ghengis ratbag.
2. If any ininvited guests turn up in China in the next 30 years, they are, objectively, very likely to be Americans. Because a) who else can? b) go ask the Koreans, Vietnamese, Afghans, Iraqis, Phillipinos, pause for breath, Nicaraguans, Yemenis, Iranians, Indonesians, Somalians, Cambodians, ..., whose army it usually is that turns up in someone else's country.
3. Pfaffing around in their local seas is relatively cheap for the Chinese, and it provokes Americans to burn lots of money in order to "maintain primacy". Meanwhile, the Chinese get to save their money and build submarines.
> At least until China democratizes
Because, of course, external threats from the world hegemon are just the kind of setting where people have always been willing to give more open and democratic ways of life a try.
- linkregister 9y agoYour entire argument is based on the premise that the Chinese military's actions have been in the interest of territorial defense and nothing else. You then proceed to make a bunch of snarky comments based off this premise. Maybe address the premise before going off on tangents about Nicaraguan or Filipino invasions of the Chinese mainland.
- cryptonector 9y agoSubject-changing is a common debate technique. Also very boring. The tangents on Nicaragua and such are non-sequiturs.
- cryptonector 9y ago> > The Chinese are still bent on dominance and interested in various conquests. > What evidence do you have for that, as opposed to this alternative hypothesis: Your hypothesis is a bunch of non-sequiturs. The evidence is bare for all to see. Their behavior on the South China Sea mainly, but not only. ASEAN exists in great part to combat Chinese aggression.