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Just include a length field with the message. The message length contains enough information to repair any possible corruption to the message.

jrochkind1 9y ago
the value of the length field must also be expressed in base-1. also, the total length reported by the 'message length' header must included the space taken by the header itself as well.
- jacobush 9y ago
  I think I am missing the joke
  - falsedan 9y ago
    > the "joke" It's "hilarious", you're missing out on "a witty insight" about "valuable programming skills". alt post: it's as much of a joke as xkcd's "I understood that reference" performance pieces.
    - cyphar 9y ago
      "Unnecessary" usage of "quotation" marks doesn't "make you" seem "enlightened", "it 'just' makes" you "sound" ""pretentious"".
      - falsedan 9y ago
        The quotes are what other people have said. Jokes need to have a punchline and evoke a humour response in the audience; the references to base-1 in the ancestor comments do neither, so describing them as a 'joke' is inaccurate (hence the quotes to mark it as verbatim). I certainly agree that overuse of quotes makes a comment pretentious!
        cyphar 9y ago
        Maybe you're not the intended audience then? Personally it got a smile out of me, and I do find some xkcd comics funny. If you don't, that's fine, but it doesn't make them not jokes.
        falsedan 9y ago
        I find that the barrier they present to understanding for people unfamiliar with "geek culture" is elitist and exclusionary. The emotional response they evoke in the viewer is based on, "I know something that other people don't", which doesn't match my experience of actual jokes from comedians.
        cyphar 9y ago
        I just went to see what you meant, and the current front-page comic on xkcd[1] doesn't convey that to me at all. Fudging statistics isn't part of geek culture (even politicians do it :P). I went back and of the past 10 comics, you could argue 3 of them reference "geek culture" so heavily you can't understand the joke unless you know what they're on about. I'm not going to pretend that it's not true (after all, the author is a geek and wants to share that with other people -- there are plenty of comics for "non-geeks"), but it's definitely not true of _every comic_. > The emotional response they evoke in the viewer is based on, "I know something that other people don't" Personally, the xkcd comics I find funny are the ones I relate to (the same with any joke). In particular, this one on Machine Learning[2] was especially funny to me because someone in my research group recently started looking at neural nets to analyse stellar spectra and we had a similar conversation with a similar conclusion. Just because very few people might relate to a particular comic doesn't mean that they relate to that comic because they like feeling superior (they might, but that's not what the comic is trying to do). [1]: https://xkcd.com/1845/ https://xkcd.com/1845/ [2]: https://xkcd.com/1838/ https://xkcd.com/1838/
        dnautics 9y ago
        the structure of this comment train makes me very happy.

jrochkind1 9y ago

the value of the length field must also be expressed in base-1. also, the total length reported by the 'message length' header must included the space taken by the header itself as well.

jacobush 9y ago
I think I am missing the joke
- falsedan 9y ago
  > the "joke" It's "hilarious", you're missing out on "a witty insight" about "valuable programming skills". alt post: it's as much of a joke as xkcd's "I understood that reference" performance pieces.
  - cyphar 9y ago
    "Unnecessary" usage of "quotation" marks doesn't "make you" seem "enlightened", "it 'just' makes" you "sound" ""pretentious"".
    - falsedan 9y ago
      The quotes are what other people have said. Jokes need to have a punchline and evoke a humour response in the audience; the references to base-1 in the ancestor comments do neither, so describing them as a 'joke' is inaccurate (hence the quotes to mark it as verbatim). I certainly agree that overuse of quotes makes a comment pretentious!
      - cyphar 9y ago
        Maybe you're not the intended audience then? Personally it got a smile out of me, and I do find some xkcd comics funny. If you don't, that's fine, but it doesn't make them not jokes.
        falsedan 9y ago
        I find that the barrier they present to understanding for people unfamiliar with "geek culture" is elitist and exclusionary. The emotional response they evoke in the viewer is based on, "I know something that other people don't", which doesn't match my experience of actual jokes from comedians.
        cyphar 9y ago
        I just went to see what you meant, and the current front-page comic on xkcd[1] doesn't convey that to me at all. Fudging statistics isn't part of geek culture (even politicians do it :P). I went back and of the past 10 comics, you could argue 3 of them reference "geek culture" so heavily you can't understand the joke unless you know what they're on about. I'm not going to pretend that it's not true (after all, the author is a geek and wants to share that with other people -- there are plenty of comics for "non-geeks"), but it's definitely not true of _every comic_. > The emotional response they evoke in the viewer is based on, "I know something that other people don't" Personally, the xkcd comics I find funny are the ones I relate to (the same with any joke). In particular, this one on Machine Learning[2] was especially funny to me because someone in my research group recently started looking at neural nets to analyse stellar spectra and we had a similar conversation with a similar conclusion. Just because very few people might relate to a particular comic doesn't mean that they relate to that comic because they like feeling superior (they might, but that's not what the comic is trying to do). [1]: https://xkcd.com/1845/ https://xkcd.com/1845/ [2]: https://xkcd.com/1838/ https://xkcd.com/1838/
        dnautics 9y ago
        the structure of this comment train makes me very happy.