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Education as job training rather than education for intrinsic value.

accountyaccount 9y ago
Makes sense considering the U.S. is a society where you have no value unless you work. The presiding political party doesn't think you should have food and housing unless you have a job.
- mmirate 9y ago
  > you have no value unless you work This subjunctive clause, stands alone as a true statement. How else does one earn money?
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    > This subjunctive clause, stands alone as a true statement. How else does one earn money? Well, one can gain money from passive rents on capital without work.
  - accountyaccount 9y ago
    You're equating value with money. I wasn't.
    - mmirate 9y ago
      > You're equating value with money. Well, unless we regress from currency to bartering, value is measured in money.
Terr_ 9y ago
Historically speaking, I suspect there's a correlation between "virtue-focused" schooling and bodies of predominantly-upper-class students who are already nearly guaranteed to get an entry-level job in a prestigious field. The study is designed to help them compete inside a more-rarefied social circle. Meanwhile, other students were in apprenticeships or going somewhere that focused on the on the three R's of readin', ritin', and 'rithmatic. If the amount of virtue-schooling is decreasing per-capita over time, that may just be regression to a centuries-long mean.
- clock_tower 9y ago
  > Historically speaking, I suspect there's a correlation between "virtue-focused" schooling and bodies of predominantly-upper-class students who are already nearly guaranteed to get an entry-level job in a prestigious field. The study is designed to help them compete inside a more-rarefied social circle. Absolutely. The "liberal" in "liberal education" means "free from having to earn a living" -- education for the independently rich, the ruling class, to ensure that they can rule wisely, justly, and prudently. Those who don't have property yet have always been better off with a technical education -- a category which historically even included law and medicine.

Makes sense considering the U.S. is a society where you have no value unless you work. The presiding political party doesn't think you should have food and housing unless you have a job.

mmirate 9y ago
> you have no value unless you work This subjunctive clause, stands alone as a true statement. How else does one earn money?
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > This subjunctive clause, stands alone as a true statement. How else does one earn money? Well, one can gain money from passive rents on capital without work.
- accountyaccount 9y ago
  You're equating value with money. I wasn't.
  - mmirate 9y ago
    > You're equating value with money. Well, unless we regress from currency to bartering, value is measured in money.

Terr_ 9y ago

Historically speaking, I suspect there's a correlation between "virtue-focused" schooling and bodies of predominantly-upper-class students who are already nearly guaranteed to get an entry-level job in a prestigious field. The study is designed to help them compete inside a more-rarefied social circle. Meanwhile, other students were in apprenticeships or going somewhere that focused on the on the three R's of readin', ritin', and 'rithmatic. If the amount of virtue-schooling is decreasing per-capita over time, that may just be regression to a centuries-long mean.

clock_tower 9y ago
> Historically speaking, I suspect there's a correlation between "virtue-focused" schooling and bodies of predominantly-upper-class students who are already nearly guaranteed to get an entry-level job in a prestigious field. The study is designed to help them compete inside a more-rarefied social circle. Absolutely. The "liberal" in "liberal education" means "free from having to earn a living" -- education for the independently rich, the ruling class, to ensure that they can rule wisely, justly, and prudently. Those who don't have property yet have always been better off with a technical education -- a category which historically even included law and medicine.