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Just curious: Why I am downvoted here? Any person with a little history knowledge would be able to say that everything is correct, I stated. But people don't

Just curious: Why I am downvoted here? Any person with a little history knowledge would be able to say that everything is correct, I stated. But people don't know about history any more, since they think, we are so different today. We are not -- but who does refrain to learn from history, is bound to repeat it. Now go on down voting me, and refrain from learning! This generation just builds up the ingredients for the next downfall of humanity.

dredmorbius 9y ago
Inconvenient truths are rarely popular.
TeMPOraL 9y ago
I think it's because you presented a very simplistic point. Any person with a little history knowledge would indeed be able to say that what you said is correct. Any person with a little more history knowledge will understand that the reasons for WWII were complex, and the more you try to generalize from Hitler and his circle of friends to the entire population of Germany, the less clear it makes sense. If WWII teaches us anything, it's that everyone is vulnerable to the same forces that created the Reich. It also teaches us that the more hate and more division isn't going to help anyone. This is what I fear "builds up the ingredients for the next downfall of humanity" - more hate, more outrage, more division between people. More politics and status games.
- PythonicAlpha 9y ago
  I did never say, that I gave a full record of why the 2nd WW happened. I just gave one valid reason that made it possible. But of course, everybody just wants to see his view of the world and nobody wants to be questioned in his style of living. Just don't think about politics and make a ton of money making the world worse, is so much easier. Snowden took a stand. You do not.
  - TeMPOraL 9y ago
    > Snowden took a stand. You do not. You don't know about me and the stands I took. As for Snowden, this kind of illustrates the point. Snowden took a stand, but not a political stand. Not in the meaning of "political stories" some of us don't want to discuss on HN. Snowden leaked NSA surveillance program because he saw people actually doing something harmful to everyone else. He was dealing with cold, hard facts, not with opinions and party preferences.
    - PythonicAlpha 9y ago
      Did you read any of the posts, or are you just copying your own old posts? You also don't know me and you are just doing some guessing game here. Just posting good sounding shallow words, is not enough (to get high marks here, it is, but that is nothing that makes better humans, I regret to tell you)
      - dang 9y ago
        Please stop.
      - TeMPOraL 9y ago
        Nah, no copying, I'm just a fast typer :P. Seriously though, please then make your opinions explicit, in the form of beliefs about the world and the merit of discussing political issues (or the merit of minding the consequences of one's creative work, as per this subthread). That'll make it easier to have a constructive conversation.

dredmorbius 9y ago

Inconvenient truths are rarely popular.

TeMPOraL 9y ago

I think it's because you presented a very simplistic point. Any person with a little history knowledge would indeed be able to say that what you said is correct. Any person with a little more history knowledge will understand that the reasons for WWII were complex, and the more you try to generalize from Hitler and his circle of friends to the entire population of Germany, the less clear it makes sense. If WWII teaches us anything, it's that everyone is vulnerable to the same forces that created the Reich. It also teaches us that the more hate and more division isn't going to help anyone. This is what I fear "builds up the ingredients for the next downfall of humanity" - more hate, more outrage, more division between people. More politics and status games.

PythonicAlpha 9y ago
I did never say, that I gave a full record of why the 2nd WW happened. I just gave one valid reason that made it possible. But of course, everybody just wants to see his view of the world and nobody wants to be questioned in his style of living. Just don't think about politics and make a ton of money making the world worse, is so much easier. Snowden took a stand. You do not.
- TeMPOraL 9y ago
  > Snowden took a stand. You do not. You don't know about me and the stands I took. As for Snowden, this kind of illustrates the point. Snowden took a stand, but not a political stand. Not in the meaning of "political stories" some of us don't want to discuss on HN. Snowden leaked NSA surveillance program because he saw people actually doing something harmful to everyone else. He was dealing with cold, hard facts, not with opinions and party preferences.
  - PythonicAlpha 9y ago
    Did you read any of the posts, or are you just copying your own old posts? You also don't know me and you are just doing some guessing game here. Just posting good sounding shallow words, is not enough (to get high marks here, it is, but that is nothing that makes better humans, I regret to tell you)
    - dang 9y ago
      Please stop.
    - TeMPOraL 9y ago
      Nah, no copying, I'm just a fast typer :P. Seriously though, please then make your opinions explicit, in the form of beliefs about the world and the merit of discussing political issues (or the merit of minding the consequences of one's creative work, as per this subthread). That'll make it easier to have a constructive conversation.