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Show HN: Pollly – Editor for YAML localization and translation files

17 points by tsifei 9y ago

andybak 9y ago
Can you explain what it's for? I'm familiar with YAML but I have no idea what "translate apps & sites" means. Do you mean "translate" as in i18n? What kind of files would I be uploading?
- sirn 9y ago
  I believe it's Rails translation files which looked like this: en.yml: https://github.com/svenfuchs/rails-i18n/blob/d14fe4e0a1c54d2897d250e941e93f1d62e3b4b6/rails/locale/en.yml https://github.com/svenfuchs/rails-i18n/blob/d14fe4e0a1c54d2... fr.yml: https://github.com/svenfuchs/rails-i18n/blob/d14fe4e0a1c54d2897d250e941e93f1d62e3b4b6/rails/locale/fr.yml https://github.com/svenfuchs/rails-i18n/blob/d14fe4e0a1c54d2... In this case, I understand the need of the editor because managing large translation files by hand is a very time consuming task and overall painful experience. From going back and forth between trying to match translation files key-by-key (nope, pluralization rules differ from languages to languages) or trying to find the correct key to edit, to fixing merge conflicts.
  - andybak 9y ago
    So Rails doesn't use .po files?
    - sirn 9y ago
      There are gettext gem available, but by default Rails ship with the YAML translation thing.
tokenizerrr 9y ago
What's up with the focus on translation? No idea how that related to yaml.
politician 9y ago
[off-topic] Does anyone know of a CLI tool like jq that works with YAML instead?
- aequitas 9y ago
  Just convert yaml to json and run it through jq?
- killercup 9y ago
  https://github.com/dflemstr/rq https://github.com/dflemstr/rq seems to be something like that
adlpz 9y ago
I think the title should be updated, this is a translation helper tool that happens to work on translation files formatted as YAML. This is not a YAML editor.
- crdoconnor 9y ago
  I really wish there was something like that though:(
tokenizerrr 9y ago
Just tried it. This is absolutely not a YAML editor. It doesn't even let you edit a single file. Very odd application, no idea what the goal is but it's certainly not editing YAML.
- killercup 9y ago
  Yes. They seem to mean "Rails-style translation files that happen to be in YAML format" when they say "YAML".
  - tokenizerrr 9y ago
    I saw the title, "Simple, free, YML editor" and tried to use it for one of my ansible yml files. It doesn't even accept it. It wants two files to be uploaded which doesn't even make sense. So, it's not a YML editor and the title is wrong. Perhaps it should be changed to "Rails translation file editor, which happens to use the YML format"
mathnode 9y ago
diff doesn't need a landing page, unnecessary text, images, and logos to be loaded. The interface has too much friction for the user. Even WITH all the extra gumpf, scrolling and clicking I still have no idea what this is for.
- m_t 9y ago
  Have you tried reading the description? > Localize and translate any apps or sites that uses YAML for localization. > Yaml is used in many languages such as Ruby, Python, Php and for Framework such as Rails or Symphony.
artursapek 9y ago
You should handle errors more gracefully. I just tried uploading a YAML file that we're reading perfectly fine in Golang and your tool refused to open it with a "duplicate mapping" error.

17 points by tsifei 9y ago

Can you explain what it's for? I'm familiar with YAML but I have no idea what "translate apps & sites" means. Do you mean "translate" as in i18n? What kind of files would I be uploading?

sirn 9y ago
I believe it's Rails translation files which looked like this: en.yml: https://github.com/svenfuchs/rails-i18n/blob/d14fe4e0a1c54d2897d250e941e93f1d62e3b4b6/rails/locale/en.yml https://github.com/svenfuchs/rails-i18n/blob/d14fe4e0a1c54d2... fr.yml: https://github.com/svenfuchs/rails-i18n/blob/d14fe4e0a1c54d2897d250e941e93f1d62e3b4b6/rails/locale/fr.yml https://github.com/svenfuchs/rails-i18n/blob/d14fe4e0a1c54d2... In this case, I understand the need of the editor because managing large translation files by hand is a very time consuming task and overall painful experience. From going back and forth between trying to match translation files key-by-key (nope, pluralization rules differ from languages to languages) or trying to find the correct key to edit, to fixing merge conflicts.
- andybak 9y ago
  So Rails doesn't use .po files?
  - sirn 9y ago
    There are gettext gem available, but by default Rails ship with the YAML translation thing.

tokenizerrr 9y ago

What's up with the focus on translation? No idea how that related to yaml.

politician 9y ago

[off-topic] Does anyone know of a CLI tool like jq that works with YAML instead?

aequitas 9y ago
Just convert yaml to json and run it through jq?
killercup 9y ago
https://github.com/dflemstr/rq https://github.com/dflemstr/rq seems to be something like that

adlpz 9y ago

I think the title should be updated, this is a translation helper tool that happens to work on translation files formatted as YAML. This is not a YAML editor.

crdoconnor 9y ago
I really wish there was something like that though:(

tokenizerrr 9y ago

Just tried it. This is absolutely not a YAML editor. It doesn't even let you edit a single file. Very odd application, no idea what the goal is but it's certainly not editing YAML.

killercup 9y ago
Yes. They seem to mean "Rails-style translation files that happen to be in YAML format" when they say "YAML".
- tokenizerrr 9y ago
  I saw the title, "Simple, free, YML editor" and tried to use it for one of my ansible yml files. It doesn't even accept it. It wants two files to be uploaded which doesn't even make sense. So, it's not a YML editor and the title is wrong. Perhaps it should be changed to "Rails translation file editor, which happens to use the YML format"

mathnode 9y ago

diff doesn't need a landing page, unnecessary text, images, and logos to be loaded. The interface has too much friction for the user. Even WITH all the extra gumpf, scrolling and clicking I still have no idea what this is for.

m_t 9y ago
Have you tried reading the description? > Localize and translate any apps or sites that uses YAML for localization. > Yaml is used in many languages such as Ruby, Python, Php and for Framework such as Rails or Symphony.

artursapek 9y ago

You should handle errors more gracefully. I just tried uploading a YAML file that we're reading perfectly fine in Golang and your tool refused to open it with a "duplicate mapping" error.