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> Maybe if Google went with "Pay us $10 per month for us not to show you any AdSense anywhere on the web", this would be successful And more importantly, with

> Maybe if Google went with "Pay us $10 per month for us not to show you any AdSense anywhere on the web", this would be successful And more importantly, with the guarantee of "no tracking whatsoever" (rather than just not 'showing' ads). Then, some of my friends would start trusting Google again (and are already willing to pay for something like that).

arjie 9y ago
How are they going to show you no ads if they don't know it's you? They have to track you for it to work.
- majewsky 9y ago
  I think GP means that you're signed in with Google, so you have a cookie linking your browser to your account, but Google does not do anything with the metadata from the requests that include the cookie of a paying contributor.
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- piyush_soni 9y ago
  They already have my sign in information. When I say no tracking, I mean nothing other than that. Like what I search, which sites I go to, which videos I watch on YouTube, or mining my photographs for more advertising hints, and what not.
  - arjie 9y ago
    So, if I'm a publisher, I have a deal with Google to pay me for space on my website. You want to pay Google in such a way that they don't know you're visiting my website. Your payment to Google must make sure there are no ads on my website for you. So now Google can't pay me for the space on my website. Why would I even sign up with Google if they aren't going to pay me for the space?
    - asdfgadsfgasfdg 9y ago
      The OP is not suggesting a technical solution but a contractual one based upon law and trust. The hypothetical scenario is that if she pays Google then Google shows no adverts and does not log her activities for beyond the bare minimum to pay the site its share, Google does not use the logs for other purposes and deletes the logs as soon as legally possible.
al_chemist 9y ago
"I don't trust you! If you let me pay for promise of not tracking me, I will trust you again!" I don't think trust depends on how much you pay somebody who you do not trust. But I may be wrong.
- piyush_soni 9y ago
  I understand your sarcasm. I personally use all of Google's services heavily, but I'll explain my friend's point of view which is not completely unreasonable IMO: Eventually, you can't know if Google or any company is secretly doing something evil 'against' their own Terms of Services and Privacy Policy, so to be fair to Google we assume that it will stick to them at any given point of time. But, you never know when those privacy policies will change overnight, when the government will change the laws overnight forcing companies to give all the information they have, or when the company will be attacked leaking all data. Also, according to Google's privacy policy there are always some "trusted partners" to which they share the data - whose security measures no one knows anything about. So, the logic is a lot can be done if you have the data. But if you just don't collect it (and it's clearly written in the Privacy Policy), governments/hackers/future evil buyers of the company can't do anything.

arjie 9y ago

How are they going to show you no ads if they don't know it's you? They have to track you for it to work.

majewsky 9y ago
I think GP means that you're signed in with Google, so you have a cookie linking your browser to your account, but Google does not do anything with the metadata from the requests that include the cookie of a paying contributor.
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piyush_soni 9y ago
They already have my sign in information. When I say no tracking, I mean nothing other than that. Like what I search, which sites I go to, which videos I watch on YouTube, or mining my photographs for more advertising hints, and what not.
- arjie 9y ago
  So, if I'm a publisher, I have a deal with Google to pay me for space on my website. You want to pay Google in such a way that they don't know you're visiting my website. Your payment to Google must make sure there are no ads on my website for you. So now Google can't pay me for the space on my website. Why would I even sign up with Google if they aren't going to pay me for the space?
  - asdfgadsfgasfdg 9y ago
    The OP is not suggesting a technical solution but a contractual one based upon law and trust. The hypothetical scenario is that if she pays Google then Google shows no adverts and does not log her activities for beyond the bare minimum to pay the site its share, Google does not use the logs for other purposes and deletes the logs as soon as legally possible.

al_chemist 9y ago

"I don't trust you! If you let me pay for promise of not tracking me, I will trust you again!" I don't think trust depends on how much you pay somebody who you do not trust. But I may be wrong.

piyush_soni 9y ago
I understand your sarcasm. I personally use all of Google's services heavily, but I'll explain my friend's point of view which is not completely unreasonable IMO: Eventually, you can't know if Google or any company is secretly doing something evil 'against' their own Terms of Services and Privacy Policy, so to be fair to Google we assume that it will stick to them at any given point of time. But, you never know when those privacy policies will change overnight, when the government will change the laws overnight forcing companies to give all the information they have, or when the company will be attacked leaking all data. Also, according to Google's privacy policy there are always some "trusted partners" to which they share the data - whose security measures no one knows anything about. So, the logic is a lot can be done if you have the data. But if you just don't collect it (and it's clearly written in the Privacy Policy), governments/hackers/future evil buyers of the company can't do anything.