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> Chrome is already 'non profit' because it does not cost money to the end user. a) non-profit is a clearly defined term [1] which doesnt apply to google, nor

by y4mi 9y ago

> Chrome is already 'non profit' because it does not cost money to the end user. a) non-profit is a clearly defined term [1] which doesnt apply to google, nor any of its products b) by your definition, any website which utilizes ad revenue is a non profit, because the end user doesn't have to pay money for its use. i'm pretty sure this was the point the parent was trying to convey. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonprofit_organization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonprofit_organization

jacquesm 9y ago
> non-profit is a clearly defined term [1] which doesnt apply to google, nor any of its products Mozilla is a non-profit, they make a browser. > by your definition, any website which utilizes ad revenue is a non profit, because the end user doesn't have to pay money for its use That's nonsense and you are well aware of it. The customers there are the advertisers, not the users of the product but that does not mean there is no payment. And if you put a value on data then you could argue that there is a payment of sort from those end users as well. I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve with all this flak you're throwing up, it is pretty clear that no large browser manufacturer is selling browsers, that a large chunk of the web is at present ad supported and that it would be possible for Google to move Chrome into a non-profit.
- wand3r 9y ago
  Chrome is the googlebot crawler so they can't bin it. Is it a non-profit? No. Is it a profit center? Potentially. It saves them money using their own machines to do it and has powerful lock in and tracking ramifications. > Mozilla is a non-profit Ya. They don't run an ad network or search engine. This doesn't make any sense. Basically: Is MacOS a non-profit because Linux is free? Apple does not charge for it but it's the bloody platform
  - Crespyl 9y ago
    I generally agree with your point, Mozilla is very much the odd one out being a non-profit browser vendor, but that last line is just weird. MacOS is a product, not a company, and I don't think you can even buy it if you wanted, it just happens to come with the hardware you buy from the for-profit Apple company. MacOS also has nothing to do with Linux, except that they're both POSIX-y.

by y4mi 9y ago

jacquesm 9y ago

> non-profit is a clearly defined term [1] which doesnt apply to google, nor any of its products Mozilla is a non-profit, they make a browser. > by your definition, any website which utilizes ad revenue is a non profit, because the end user doesn't have to pay money for its use That's nonsense and you are well aware of it. The customers there are the advertisers, not the users of the product but that does not mean there is no payment. And if you put a value on data then you could argue that there is a payment of sort from those end users as well. I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve with all this flak you're throwing up, it is pretty clear that no large browser manufacturer is selling browsers, that a large chunk of the web is at present ad supported and that it would be possible for Google to move Chrome into a non-profit.

wand3r 9y ago
Chrome is the googlebot crawler so they can't bin it. Is it a non-profit? No. Is it a profit center? Potentially. It saves them money using their own machines to do it and has powerful lock in and tracking ramifications. > Mozilla is a non-profit Ya. They don't run an ad network or search engine. This doesn't make any sense. Basically: Is MacOS a non-profit because Linux is free? Apple does not charge for it but it's the bloody platform
- Crespyl 9y ago
  I generally agree with your point, Mozilla is very much the odd one out being a non-profit browser vendor, but that last line is just weird. MacOS is a product, not a company, and I don't think you can even buy it if you wanted, it just happens to come with the hardware you buy from the for-profit Apple company. MacOS also has nothing to do with Linux, except that they're both POSIX-y.