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Munich in Germany is a lovely place to live, even if at least you have to understand German if you want to work for a serious company. 30 days of holiday, perfe

Munich in Germany is a lovely place to live, even if at least you have to understand German if you want to work for a serious company. 30 days of holiday, perfect health insurance system. But there are a lot of European cities (for example Amsterdam, Zurich) where speaking English is enough for making a living. I do not understand why on earth would someone as a foreigner prefer living in the US.

peterburkimsher 9y ago
Zürich is in Switzerland. If I became Swiss, I would have to do military service, and kill foreigners. Germany seems nice (I've only visited, not worked). But Germany doesn't allow dual nationality. I'd have to give up my current half-British second-class citizenship in order to get the privilege to live there for the rest of my life. Now the UK is leaving the EU, I can't rely on being allowed to live there permanently. The Dutch government is good. I spent 1 month in Amsterdam in 2013, trying to find jobs. I failed. I also felt excluded because of being a foreigner (I heard actual racist comments twice during that month). I was welcomed by the foreign and squatter community, but they were mostly drunk and/or high (I don't do drugs or drink). In the end, I got a job in China, so I flew there to work for 5 months before starting that ill-fated Ph.D. programme in Korea.
- ccozan 9y ago
  If you are British, still EU, then Germany allows double citizenship. But, since you need 6-8 years to live in Germany until you get your citizenship, by the UK will be no longer EU, so..
ccozan 9y ago
Munich is becoming increasingly expensive for young, unmarried people. Or couples with kids. I don't have actual sources for data, but most of my friends are complaining. I am living in a town 80km south west of Munich and I pay for a full house with garden less than a one bedroom app in Munich. I find this really expensive. Kindergarten you are expected to pay about 1000 euros a month for a place, because there is a shortage. Meanwhile, my local kindergarten cannot fill its quota of children. Life quality is amazing since you can buy most of the food locally.
- NumberCruncher 9y ago
  The Germans are always complaining about first world problems. You get used to it. :)
  - InTempWeTrust 9y ago
    You could become a quater citizen if germany, if scottland remains. Sorry just ridculing the whole concept of nation states as tribes, while every ideology ever currently tries to get out of that old concept.
- dx034 9y ago
  It's expensive compared to the rest of Germany but not necessarily compared to London/Zurich/NYC/Bay Area.

peterburkimsher 9y ago

Zürich is in Switzerland. If I became Swiss, I would have to do military service, and kill foreigners. Germany seems nice (I've only visited, not worked). But Germany doesn't allow dual nationality. I'd have to give up my current half-British second-class citizenship in order to get the privilege to live there for the rest of my life. Now the UK is leaving the EU, I can't rely on being allowed to live there permanently. The Dutch government is good. I spent 1 month in Amsterdam in 2013, trying to find jobs. I failed. I also felt excluded because of being a foreigner (I heard actual racist comments twice during that month). I was welcomed by the foreign and squatter community, but they were mostly drunk and/or high (I don't do drugs or drink). In the end, I got a job in China, so I flew there to work for 5 months before starting that ill-fated Ph.D. programme in Korea.

ccozan 9y ago
If you are British, still EU, then Germany allows double citizenship. But, since you need 6-8 years to live in Germany until you get your citizenship, by the UK will be no longer EU, so..

ccozan 9y ago

Munich is becoming increasingly expensive for young, unmarried people. Or couples with kids. I don't have actual sources for data, but most of my friends are complaining. I am living in a town 80km south west of Munich and I pay for a full house with garden less than a one bedroom app in Munich. I find this really expensive. Kindergarten you are expected to pay about 1000 euros a month for a place, because there is a shortage. Meanwhile, my local kindergarten cannot fill its quota of children. Life quality is amazing since you can buy most of the food locally.

NumberCruncher 9y ago
The Germans are always complaining about first world problems. You get used to it. :)
- InTempWeTrust 9y ago
  You could become a quater citizen if germany, if scottland remains. Sorry just ridculing the whole concept of nation states as tribes, while every ideology ever currently tries to get out of that old concept.
dx034 9y ago
It's expensive compared to the rest of Germany but not necessarily compared to London/Zurich/NYC/Bay Area.