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It amazes me that you can write something like this on the same day that Pres. Trump announced his withdrawal from the Paris Climate Agreement. The man is imper
by brianberns 9y ago
It amazes me that you can write something like this on the same day that Pres. Trump announced his withdrawal from the Paris Climate Agreement. The man is imperiling the very future of civilization.
- duncan_bayne 9y agoIt amazes me that you can follow up his post with an example of the very sort of hyperventilating moral panic that he's talking about.
- brianberns 9y agoYou do realize that the consequences of global warming are real, right? Rising sea levels, ocean acidification, mass extinctions, etc. represent threats to the sustainability of civilization.
- duncan_bayne 9y agoBut civilization itself depends upon free trade, industry, and cheap energy. http://www.moralcaseforfossilfuels.com/ http://www.moralcaseforfossilfuels.com/ "With more politicians in climate science than scientists, the refining fire of debate has devolved into the burning of heretics. Alex Epstein’s The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels may make your blood boil, but his cool reason and cold, hard facts will lead us beyond hysterics to a much better future." - Peter Thiel
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- brianberns 9y agoYeah, and it used to depend on slavery too.
- duncan_bayne 9y agoIt still does in many countries - but it shouldn't, and doesn't have to. That is a problem we could bring diplomatic weight to bear on, but yay cheap shoes I guess :/
- fivestar 9y agoBut the solution was never those Paris accords. There was no solution in that, just more dead ends for regular Americans. How is that helpful? Nothing gets fixed, but vulnerable populations become more vulnerable?
- mattnewton 9y agoLet's do nothing then, and keep our good American coal jobs to the end. /s
- daxfohl 9y agoMost Republicans support this. Republicans control all branches of Fed, most states, munis, etc. The president's decision is likely in the majority. This is the problem, not the president himself.
- learc83 9y agoThe last poll I saw said 70% of Americans supported remaining in the agreement. http://climatecommunication.yale.edu/publications/paris_agreement_by_state/ http://climatecommunication.yale.edu/publications/paris_agre...
- daxfohl 9y agoIn which case the problem is the ability (and tenacity?) to vote for leaders who have completely different interests than your own? Any solution to this? I'm drawing blanks.
- fivestar 9y ago70% of Americans never did a single minute's research on the issue or what is was, how it operates, or anything else. Pollsters just throw out general ideas and everyone agrees that it's a "good." Also, the adults in my community can't even handle dropping their kids off in the school parking lot, much less understanding complex scientific issues that require management of multiple outcomes, all of which have serious trade-offs.
- MarkLowenstein 9y agoThis is a remarkable post, because even though I can't figure out if it's lampooning or sincere, either way it's laugh-out-loud funny.
- nice1 9y agoLet me point out that many people are not convinced that global warming is real, let alone related to human activity. You can easily educate yourself about this issue if you use the internet.
- fivestar 9y agoNo he's not and to express that opinion here makes you look like a major douche concern troll.