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sigh national polling wasn't wrong, and hillary won the national vote to match the polls. it was the state polling that was off; and national polls don't poll t

by DiNovi 9y ago

sigh national polling wasn't wrong, and hillary won the national vote to match the polls. it was the state polling that was off; and national polls don't poll the electoral college. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/10/how-much-did-polls-miss-the-mark-on-trump-and-why/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/10/ho... Anyway, what you're saying is wrong - my parents are extremely conservative, voted trump, and are very upset about this. Why? They live in a sinking state where you can actually see climate change(LA). Many things have become factionalized - but climate and healthcare are much less than people think. I think the real problem right now is the right is engaging in identity politics and victimhood - ironically the same things they accuse others of. "Trump can never do anything right in the eyes of others" and "I like this ebcause the other side doesn't" reak of it.

wernercd 9y ago
With the talk of Climate Change aside... What does the Paris Accord do? Nothing. What lawful enforcement is there to it? None. What forces countries to be accurate and honest? Nadda. How much will it actually affect "Climate Change"? Marginally. Climate and Healthcare haven't become factionalized and politicized? No offense, but what reality are you in? It sure as shit ain't the one I live in... The same Healthcare that was changed by a party line vote via the ACA? Pushed through with no bipartisan work or support? Climate change isn't either? When more than a few studies can be pinged as affected by money from one side or the other? When denying "Climate Change" gets you branded a Heretic at the same level as denying Mother Church? Name one thing the Democrats have done to work Trump since he got elected? BOTH sides are engaging in "identity politics". Neither side is willing to work together for the common good. Both sides have victimization - although I would argue that the parts on the Right are much less pronounced and "Central" to their message and platform...
- DiNovi 9y ago
  Have fun with your just asking questions? posts, but everything you said can be easily looked up and debunked.
  - wernercd 9y ago
    Really? The same can be said of the reverse... Picking apart the Paris Accord. Picking apart various Scientific Studies - and the politics behind them. Picking apart both sides of the isle for caring more about Party than about anything else.

by DiNovi 9y ago

wernercd 9y ago

With the talk of Climate Change aside... What does the Paris Accord do? Nothing. What lawful enforcement is there to it? None. What forces countries to be accurate and honest? Nadda. How much will it actually affect "Climate Change"? Marginally. Climate and Healthcare haven't become factionalized and politicized? No offense, but what reality are you in? It sure as shit ain't the one I live in... The same Healthcare that was changed by a party line vote via the ACA? Pushed through with no bipartisan work or support? Climate change isn't either? When more than a few studies can be pinged as affected by money from one side or the other? When denying "Climate Change" gets you branded a Heretic at the same level as denying Mother Church? Name one thing the Democrats have done to work Trump since he got elected? BOTH sides are engaging in "identity politics". Neither side is willing to work together for the common good. Both sides have victimization - although I would argue that the parts on the Right are much less pronounced and "Central" to their message and platform...

DiNovi 9y ago
Have fun with your just asking questions? posts, but everything you said can be easily looked up and debunked.
- wernercd 9y ago
  Really? The same can be said of the reverse... Picking apart the Paris Accord. Picking apart various Scientific Studies - and the politics behind them. Picking apart both sides of the isle for caring more about Party than about anything else.