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The Goal? To Crash your shared web hosting?

2 points by vlad 20y ago

vlad 20y ago
What do you guys think? Is this a good of way of putting what we're trying to do here? Then hope it crashes again very soon after you upgrade to a dedicated server? That you can barely keep it running? In other words, instead of worrying about the kind of hosting you have right now, shouldn't the focus be on figuring out ways to overload it? Isn't it kind of ironic or contrary to this belief, that people want the best host with the most web space and bandwidth? Shouldn't they want to slow as many machines to a crawl as possible? I've heard stories of how businesses (startups or otherwise) love to switch to $5/mo web hosting with 5000GB of bandwidth which of course they will never reach before being kicked out. Or startups wondering what the best hosting company is. But, isn't that self-defeating to put those thoughts into your mind? Or that you're feeling inferior if you can't outgrow $5/mo web hosting? I say, pay $10 a month for something sane, like 100gb transfer. Something that is $100 realistic. Then, when you outgrow the server, you know you're doing something right. And you don't have to feel guilty or inferior or that you're not using the space or bandwidth, which in reality you don't even have access to (they would shut you off.) So why do businesses try to disillusion themselves? Wouldn't it be much better to find any web host with a bandwidth cap (so they simply shut you off and you're not stuck with a huge overages bill) and focus instead on building traffic of visitors to your site every day?
- zaidf 20y ago
  No! We're laboring to put our db on a separate server from http so our site doesn't randomly die for few minutes(10mins downtime today). Believe me it's not pleasant to get a 4:05am sms from hyperspin saying "SITE IS DOWN!". But all in all it's a nice problem to have. I tend to agree with Delicious guys...worry about scaling when it becomes a problem. That shouldn't be an excuse to code bloated SQL queries.
- imp 20y ago
  It was kind of exciting getting kicked off of my shared host for being too popular, but it was stressful and frustrating trying to get it back online. It's fun to do once, but if I had to scale beyond my dedicated server right now I'd be pissed.
andre 20y ago
I think you have to thinking whatever gets your juices flowing, if it's crashing the server, be it, if it's something else go with that.
staunch 20y ago
dpapathanasiou 20y ago
I never want to see it go down or become unavailable, either, but I agree with your underlying sentiment. On a related note, I find that user feedback (of any kind) is a terrific boost: since most people are lurkers (or worse, look for 5 sec and never return), people who take the time to email us or post a blog comment provide a huge lift.

2 points by vlad 20y ago

vlad 20y ago

What do you guys think? Is this a good of way of putting what we're trying to do here? Then hope it crashes again very soon after you upgrade to a dedicated server? That you can barely keep it running? In other words, instead of worrying about the kind of hosting you have right now, shouldn't the focus be on figuring out ways to overload it? Isn't it kind of ironic or contrary to this belief, that people want the best host with the most web space and bandwidth? Shouldn't they want to slow as many machines to a crawl as possible? I've heard stories of how businesses (startups or otherwise) love to switch to $5/mo web hosting with 5000GB of bandwidth which of course they will never reach before being kicked out. Or startups wondering what the best hosting company is. But, isn't that self-defeating to put those thoughts into your mind? Or that you're feeling inferior if you can't outgrow $5/mo web hosting? I say, pay $10 a month for something sane, like 100gb transfer. Something that is $100 realistic. Then, when you outgrow the server, you know you're doing something right. And you don't have to feel guilty or inferior or that you're not using the space or bandwidth, which in reality you don't even have access to (they would shut you off.) So why do businesses try to disillusion themselves? Wouldn't it be much better to find any web host with a bandwidth cap (so they simply shut you off and you're not stuck with a huge overages bill) and focus instead on building traffic of visitors to your site every day?

zaidf 20y ago
No! We're laboring to put our db on a separate server from http so our site doesn't randomly die for few minutes(10mins downtime today). Believe me it's not pleasant to get a 4:05am sms from hyperspin saying "SITE IS DOWN!". But all in all it's a nice problem to have. I tend to agree with Delicious guys...worry about scaling when it becomes a problem. That shouldn't be an excuse to code bloated SQL queries.
imp 20y ago
It was kind of exciting getting kicked off of my shared host for being too popular, but it was stressful and frustrating trying to get it back online. It's fun to do once, but if I had to scale beyond my dedicated server right now I'd be pissed.

andre 20y ago

I think you have to thinking whatever gets your juices flowing, if it's crashing the server, be it, if it's something else go with that.

staunch 20y ago

dpapathanasiou 20y ago

I never want to see it go down or become unavailable, either, but I agree with your underlying sentiment. On a related note, I find that user feedback (of any kind) is a terrific boost: since most people are lurkers (or worse, look for 5 sec and never return), people who take the time to email us or post a blog comment provide a huge lift.